RayburnGuy Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 On 10/26/2013 at 8:45 PM, BassAboveThe49th said: What is your take on 2 in one air filters/regulators? Are you sure you aren't talking about a water separator/regulator combination? These are common although I've never seen an air filter/regulator combo. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAboveThe49th Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Oops ya that's what I meant Oops ya that's what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Water trap/regulator combos are quite common for airbrushing. They work best when you have them mounted as close as possible to your airbrush. If it's mounted on your compressor and you have a long hose leading to your airbrush then there's a chance that condensation can form in the hose. I have mine mounted to a leg of the workbench with a 6' airbrush hose hooked up directly to the water trap/regulator. It's really convenient having the regulator so close as all I have to do to change the air pressure setting is reach over and adjust it without ever having to get out of the chair. It's also easy to build a manifold so you can have multiple airbrushes hooked up at the same time. They have manifolds for sale, but all you need to build one is a few pipe fittings and it's cheaper as well. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAboveThe49th Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ya I had thought about that too, I might just buy them separately so I don't have a chunky regulator attached to my ab, i feel like it would be hard to work with haha, I think I'll buy the Iwata moisture filter right on the rush then the regulator at the other end of that hose, then the regulator then so on with everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joliepa Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) On 10/26/2013 at 5:29 PM, BassAboveThe49th said: OK that's good, ya I have access to a shop so I can make some for myself,oh ya man I already have that stuff picked out! I have brushes, created paint cleaner, paint, bloxogen (If I use urethane), helping hands, cleaning station, extra alligator clips, a moisture filter, an air pressure regulator just to be safe so I don't break my an the first time I use it, and I think that's it. I just have to buy it all now haha. Oh also should I use urethane to clear cost my painted bait or Devcon 2 ton epoxy? There are a zillion posts about Top coats. and, I am assured in most that I have read, that there are hundred zillion posts about them on other forums, in the distant past,etc. But I think I'll chime in as a newbe how has gone done one road and run into some issues. As I said in a few other posts, I Epoxied (with Devcon 2ton) my first three painted baits and a bare foiled bait. I expected it to be difficult. It was worse then I expected. Coverage was poor, glossiness was dissapointing and the one that went fishing looked really rough. I thought about posting the question of what went wrong. but after a long read through many devcon threads I decided it was prolly that it was applied too cold. the unheated garage I used couldn't have been much warmer than the low 40's. Too boot, I rushed off fishing with my first lure after 7 hours. Not enough waiting. Lots of people recommending 24 hours or more. Apparently 'cures' take a lot longer than just losing that sticky feeling. Lots of Recommendations to take into account one's personal situation before chosing a top coat. Here, then is my personal criteria. A No air brushing. I'm don't want to coat a brand new AB I am just learning how to use, inside with any kind of glue or adhesive. B Availability & Costs. If I were out for the "perfect" coating, then yes I'd spend the bucks and time to get it. But I have several lures finished already and costs are mounting. C Easy. Devcon2ton is the perfect novice top coat (read all the posts), except when somethings wrong You can't boatch up "Dip" and hang... D waterproof. Topcoats have to be particularly water proof or else they start going within hours. E Storage. If you really producing cranks, perhaps 1 qt of sealer isn't going to last a legendary time. but... even with multiple coats it become apparent that 1qt/1gallon is going to seal lots and lots of lures. Thats lots of time sitting in the garage-- I can't have it setting up. Its become clear reading though all my posts that with this in mind, Helms Spur Urethane and Walmarts "SEAL krete" concrete sealer is the best two possibilities. We haven't talked about Seal Krete, though and so I'm adding one more criteria. F) Certainty. Its no good buying something you can't use for anything else and finding out that the particular product isn't compatable. There are a great deal of products that have been discussed extensively at TU. If I could get GST or eagle, this would be a no-brainer. for now then I have decided that the Spur Urethane is what to try next. as I said, though TU has discussed it. I won't attach threads (they are easy to find if you search for them), but the Big down side.... This product doesn't stay clear and glossy. People report it getting a Amber-Brown cast over time. This though is where ones personal situation makes a difference. I ALWAYS fish the night. I'm pretty dang sure the Spur Urethane Isn't UV stable. but my fishing lures don't see alot of sunlight. also I'm strictly a foil guy. I have no desire to paint pretty elaborate patterns. They really wouldn't make much of a difference in the dark water. I'm not entirely ready to give up on 2ton, though. The lure that just had foil looked a little better than the others. I think with experience and a warmer place. I could put a good base coat on the foil instead of painting directly on the foil. I've already noticed that painting over a coat helps me hide foil seams,etc. I'm sure it will be no different with the AB. A few people have asked about my lures and If I get this devcon right I could still go according to plan.and finish with Devcon. I wouldn't want the fuss of two coats of devcon for my lures anyway. and being underneath. Painting/ and the Urethane topcoat should help with thin spots. PS. for the sake of any newby's reading the thread. Polyacrylic is prolly tempting BUT it has been widely refuted by many,many people here at TU. People are only using it when they don't care about failing Top coats (or honestly if they don't know no better). If I got it right, Spur urethane is a zillion times better than poly even though it does yellow up. Edited October 28, 2013 by joliepa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAboveThe49th Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Thanks for the advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
