benm98 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I was fishing with some young kids the other day and the bite was nonexistent, so I threw some bread out to get some bluegills to come out and I had an idea. Small bluegill and other baitfish were grabbing a piece of bread at the surface, then swimming back down to eat it. My idea would be to create a shallow crankbait that floated with its bill facing up, and the tail facing down so it would create a splash then swim down, to emulate this action. Do you think it's possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Sounds like it should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Where you talking about the diving bill coming out of the head of the bait on top?...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 @ benm98 I had tinkered on a lure design sporting a similar action a couple of years ago , ......floats at rest and pops on the surface to dig down steeply when the retrieve is commenced with a little jerk or twitch of the rod . Check out these gallery pictures of mine , ...it is the lure with a metal lip : http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/2562-cuptails/ http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/2563-cuptails/ http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/2564-cuptails/ In this video at 5:02 there is a similar lure employing the same principle on bath tub display , ....sadly the frame rate of the vid collapsed for some reason , so not much to be seen , the audio is OK , though. This design really works , but the lip is pointing downward rendering the lure tailheavy , not upward as you had stated . I think , that a tailweighted lure with an upward pointing lip could never get to dive down too deep , as tail ballast always counterworks diving performance . Greetz , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm98 Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Diemai, that's ingenius! A popper that also doubles as a diver! I'll have to give that a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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diemai Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Diemai, that's ingenius! A popper that also doubles as a diver! I'll have to give that a try! You might want to install a transparent lexan lip , ...in this case some ballast on the lip side might become neccessary to let the lure float up as much vertical as possible . My lures do not have any added ballast , alone the aluminium lip's weight and the minor buoyancy of the tapered front body portion let them sit nose down that much . When the retrieve is paused and the lure is rising up again , it would sit at an about 45° level , as the water pressure on the cupped tail pushes the lure to that position , thus when breaking through the surface , a good portion of the water inside of the deep cupping would be released so that the cupping would be sufficiently deep enough again to create a vaccum and popping sound on the next jerk . Naturally you'd need to utilize a buoyant kind of wood , ..mine are made from Abachewood , but which is hard to obtain in the USA , as it seems . Good luck , ....diemai Edited November 6, 2013 by diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...