gone2long Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 How much are the 2 you suggested where your at I looked at Chicago airbrush supply and they list at $181.00 and $275.00 US respectfully that's pretty steep for someone who's not sure that this hobby is for him. You can easily get a good brush for under $100.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt M Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I know it's been said before but Iwata Neo Gravity Feed is $65 at Hobby Lobby. Get the 40% coupon and the gun is a bargain for beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm not trying to say one brush is better than the other but both chicago airbrush and coast airbrush have the iwata revolution hp-br on sale for $99.95 and its a great gun for beginer or other wise. The Harder Steenbeck brushes are great brushes but for a beginner I would start with one of the cheaper brushes and progress up if the need was there. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Yeah I'm partial to that little brush and it's a great deal if you can get one with that discount! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekoutdoors.co Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I can say if a cheaper brush or more expensive brush would be better for a beginner just because I started with an Iwata Revolution BR and I am still impressed with it 3 years later. I might of got out of it using a cheaper airbrush with the junk I produced at the beginning because the price would of been a throw away. I think if you would spend close to $100 you may push yourself more to learn the craft of painting baits etc. I would just find a nice airbrush with a .3mm needle anything bigger it will be very hard to get nice detail. There is one on ebay for $78.95 with free shipping. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iwata-Medea-Revolution-BR-Gravity-Feed-Airbrush-Internal-Mix-R2500-/131049126455?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8322fa37 and thats about what I paid for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdentAngler Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Wow, I missed quite a few posts in the past couple days. What accessories will I need after purchasing a airbrush? I read about an oil filter and a few other things. It would be nice to get everything in a bundle but a couple good nudges in the right direction would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 A water separator is a must either inline or on the brush itself. A small set of cleaning brushes is also essential, a cleaning station would be nice and if it doesn't have a brush holder then you need to get one as well, with the exception of the water separator you can get the rest at harbor freight on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 The water separator should be placed as close as possible to your airbrush. This is especially true for those who have an air compressor setting outside, or as far away as possible to reduce noise, and running a long hose to their painting station. The air coming out of the compressor is warmed quite a bit and moisture can form in the air line through the act of condensation. The best way to keep this from happening if your running a long air hose is to mount your regulator/water separator close to your painting station. I have mine mounted on a leg of my workbench which also makes it easy to change air pressure without having to get up and walk to the compressor. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yep same here I'm currently using a Paasche inline seperator on my brushes hose but when the money allows I'm going to get the Iwata unit that mounts to the brush. Anyone have any experience with that type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Rumor has it that there's a great deal on an Iwata HP-BS in the classified section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybait Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 After all the scoops on here I bought the Iwata Neo at a new Hobby Lobby that opened close to home. With my coupon got it for 42 bucks. You guys were right. The gravity feed brushes are much easier to use and clean and for using small amounts of paint. I painted a 8 inch rainbow trout wakebait turned out great but I also used it to paint a 1.5 and a 2.5 which were detailed jobs with many color changes in another thread "does anyone know how to achieve this effect" and it worked great for that too. Easier to clean and keep clean. I'm still wanting to get a Revolution or Eclipse but I wanted the neo anyway because I let some kids from a bass fishing team come over and paint. I think my Badger 150 is going to be a back-up brush. Thanks for the info, my hobby lure painting life got easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 The only thing I've ever used is Paasche's single action gun. I bought a Iwata HP-BCS this weekend but have not tried it yet. I will be starting over somewhat learning with the dual action gun. I just hope I am able to clean and change colors fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybait Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 cms. I think the B in BCS means bottom or siphon feed. If you want to be able to clean and change colors fast you might want to take it back and get one with the cup on top....gravity feed. It really helps with multiple color changes especially with small amounts. You can really clean the cup and put in 2 drops of paint to highlight the gill plate then clean and change another color. Can't do that with the siphon feed because you have to fill the siphon each time. (if that's not what the B means, disregard this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I just ordered the one mentioned above on ebay. Hopefully I will have it by Friday. What method do most people use for cleaning or changing colors? The idea the one guy mentioned about submerging the whole brush in a bucket of water and back feeding it by pressing it against a rubber pad that I assume was also submerged in the bucket of water as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yes, the rubber pad is submerged and it shuts off the spray coming out the brush tip, forcing water or cleaning solution back through the cup to clean out the front of the brush - otherwise known as back-washing. It cleans the brush much better than simply shooting water through it. You can do essentially the same thing by holding a finger over the tip shield (a/b tip) and shooting with water or cleaning solution in the cup. A few airbrushes have cut-outs in the tip shield which render back-washing impossible but most don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Well... I suck. I am using a $15 cheapo gravity fed airbrush I got on Amazon. I do pretty well with it and plan to get a better one soon. Most likely a Neo and then eventually an Eclipse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Moose, not to worry - it ain't the airbrush, it's the guy holding the airbrush that executes a paint scheme. The particular brush can just make it a little harder or easier to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...