tekoutdoors.co Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I was thinking of trying this but I can only come up with a couple of different ways to try to make this cool scale pattern. 1st: Use a dark painted bait with scale masking to get the dark scale pattern and then when I am finished with it cut out a stencils that would match the diamonds and highlight the back side of the diamond with white. 2nd: Paint the bait white then put on the scale masking and spray the bait angled toward the front to get the white to stay on the back side of the scales. Not sure if that would work or if anyone else knows what I mean. I have done scales before but never to this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree_Fish Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Your second option will work, just make sure you hold your brush at a consistent angle, it also helps to have a scale material that's a little thicker. Your first option will probably work but you'll have cleaner lines which are harder to fade together. That's a well painted bait, I've done the scales like that but not nearly that close together. Either way you do it I'd bet you have a better chance at it than I do by looking at your sig lol. Edited November 25, 2013 by Tree_Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I agree with tree_fish. You could also paint the bait white and "foil" the bait with the design printed on testors film for model car decals. Lots of people use this stuff for photo finishes on here. The printoff in this case would have the scale design with higlights and shading over background colors. Make one and then copy paste to make 4 or 5 scales... copy paste make 20.... copy paste 100. You get the idea. Just from the look of that bait though I'm gonna guess its sprayed with a net over it at the angle described. Painting that with an airbrush would be doable but tough. Worth a shot though to start..... Maybe you could make the netting thicker, as has been said before, on your own to make it easier. Looks like a shower scrubber to me. Maybe dip or brush epoxy on it to make it thicker... multiple coats of airbrush paint on the netting..... idk. Trial and error. Cool looking bluegill though. Good luck. Edited November 25, 2013 by CarverGLX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) One more. Paint bait black. Use netting and paint bait white. Dry whilein netting. Slightly shift netting everywhere evenly (seems hard to do)forward slightly. Half of netting on black and half on white. Paint restof bait through netting. The thickened netting and angle spraying seems like the best option to me without trying it though. As a guess to make thicker netting: Stretch netting in a hoop (sewing hoop) and brush on Etex or some thin epoxy. Put on a turner like you would a bait. Edited November 25, 2013 by CarverGLX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinman13 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 From the looks of it, base color was and then they used netting over the whole bait and then just painted it in sections fading where needed. Then did the stripes last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't have a clue how they did this bait. But if you figure it out let us know. Pleasssssssseeeeeeeee its really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I think the scales are photo finished, and everything else is painted with transparent paints. Great looking lure though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I've followed his work for some time...amazing! His baits pull huge money on eBay. Quality work...a real artist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfk9 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Teko .....patience and a helluva lot practice....initially I agreed with Thinman13...i've pulled that type of scaling stretching a little tighter...but not nearly as artistic....leaning towards nedyarb...looks like a photo finish.. or a great job of feathering an' leaving a pretty consistent reveal on the base coat...........all this rambling....bottom line is "Great artistic paint"!!! Bad Boy caliber.......surfk9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekoutdoors.co Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Thanks for the suggestions guys I will try a few different options if the angle spray one does not work. I used to have time to paint every night now I have small kids and no time. If I figure it out I will post how I did it one here. His work is what got me into this and then I found this site and it got me even more excited with all the cool things you can do with baits. Now to find the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I think the scales are photo finished, and everything else is painted with transparent paints. Great looking lure though! No photo finishing on this lure. It was done by BB Lures. The dude is not an artist, but, he certainly has the imagination of one. Lot's of time spent on his lures. They're as good as I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinman13 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why can't we email him or something and ask how he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why can't we email him or something and ask how he did it. I guessing he or she worked hard to figure out how to get that effect, and now they make a living using it, so I don't think they would give it up easily, but you can try. They have a contact email on their site, BB Lures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 My guess... The effect was the result of the netting shifting slightly after the white was shot. If you look carefully, you'll note that the effect isn't uniform across the scaling. There is not evidence of a fade especially at the edges, in my opinion. Beautiful clean work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I will throw in another guess. Base coat was black. Then used netting that was sprayed with tacky glue, to stick it to the lure. Sprayed white at a angle to build up the back of the scales. Then removed the netting! Maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 shot at an angle.....there is a video in here somewhere about 3D scaling effects....IMO I"ve been wrong before, though....just ask my wives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 This technique might require as much patience as talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) I have another guess! The scale pattern is very unique, so I'm thinking he made a small press out of metal that he pushes into the lure to make each individual scale, he may cover the lure with aluminum to have something to leave a pattern on the lure. Then spay it at an angle? Edited November 28, 2013 by nedyarb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankpaint Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 look at the way solorfall makes his scales theres a video on utube that shows a 3d effect that he uses you can use that uses a stencle for the scales just hi-light the edge with whatever color you want and use a darker color for the scales main color so it will look like 1 scale is tucked under the one in front of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 OK I will throw my theory in: Dark under coat Meshed and then sprayed white from the front of the bait colors sprayed from back of bait 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I've never seen another mesh like that! Maybe it is mesh, but it's really unique looking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking it's done like Crankpaint suggested and the same as the way Tek has in his avatar. The overlapping scales just aren't full circles. Looks like black, or something dark, base coat with the scales shot with white paint. The different colors covering the white scales would be shot with transparent paint allowing the scales to show through. Ben Edited November 28, 2013 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm thinking it's done like Crankpaint suggested and the same as the way Tek has in his avatar. The overlapping scales just aren't full circles. Looks like black, or something dark, base coat with the scales shot with white paint. The different colors covering the white scales would be shot with transparent paint allowing the scales to show through. Ben I think you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybait Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Might have figured it out! This morning I was in my Dad's shop and walked past a roll of aluminum gutter guard material. It is basically a 6" wide roll of aluminum expanded metal. It is easily cut with good scissors and shaped to the lure. It has the depth and integrity to provide the distinct pattern and thickness for the angled painting allowing for the white'ish back of the scale to remain and still maintain the crisp pattern. I haven't tried it yet but feel it might be the answer. If you understand what I am talking about it is expanded metal but not flattened. Easily cut with scissors being aluminum you can shape it by hand and it retains it's shape. You can make two sides and clip them together clam-shelling the bait and start painting. It's directional but we can figure it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Might have figured it out! This morning I was in my Dad's shop and walked past a roll of aluminum gutter guard material. It is basically a 6" wide roll of aluminum expanded metal. It is easily cut with good scissors and shaped to the lure. It has the depth and integrity to provide the distinct pattern and thickness for the angled painting allowing for the white'ish back of the scale to remain and still maintain the crisp pattern. I haven't tried it yet but feel it might be the answer. If you understand what I am talking about it is expanded metal but not flattened. Easily cut with scissors being aluminum you can shape it by hand and it retains it's shape. You can make two sides and clip them together clam-shelling the bait and start painting. It's directional but we can figure it out. I thought about something like this. I had some copper mesh but I was worried it would scratch up the finish....Good call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...