RayburnGuy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I read that if you give netting the hot bath treatment it will also soften the netting. Soft netting is much easier to get a tight fit with when wrapping it around lure bodies. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Btw, the loofa I used melted when I heat set the lure with a hair dryer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent R Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Could you do the same thing with a hair dryer? Mark if you put it in hot water it will shrink the loofah all at once and does a great job. If you use a hair dryer or heat gun you will more than likely melt it. It only takes a few minutes to put it in hot water. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) IMO, the 3 pics above is a step forward. Edited December 19, 2013 by saltshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) I use tulle fabric, and heat set each coat of my scale paint before I remove the tulle from it. It doesn't melt. Funny thing is it gets softer with use. I thought it was the paint. I guess it was from the hair dryer. I am going to hit the tulle with the hair dryer before I put it over my next bait, to see if that makes it easier to follow the bait's contours. I am also going to throw a piece of the tulle into the next load of laundry I do, to see if that softens it. I have a sheet of plywood leaning next to my painting area, and a 2' square piece of 1/4" dense, sealed foam, doubled to give me 1/2" thickness, duct taped to the top edge of it. I take my tulle, again a 2' square, and tape it over the top of the plywood like a hinge, so I can lift it up out of the way when I want to. I drape the tulle down over the bait, and snug it tight with those plastic push pins. I used to hold the bait in place with paperclips and rubber bands, but I've found that I can just slip it under the tulle, use one pin beneath the bait to hold it temporarily, and then adjust the bait until it's positioned right and add more pins to make the tulle tighter to the bait. It isn't perfect, but it works for me. Edited December 19, 2013 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybait Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Relentless......that bait looks great! I agree with you that it will turn out much better with a more precise pattern on a smooth surface. Any texture on the bait surface distorts the sharp lines and shading effect resulting is a less crisp pattern. I had the same trouble with the aluminum gutter guard mesh but with that the hardest part is achieving zero clearance to the bait. All the shower loofah I found was so fine I didn't feel like it would shade well when spraying at an angle but it worked for you. Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Moose Baits Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Another side note: Many of us may or hope to sell lures to help or make a living. Yet here we are, all potential "competitors" working together on this and other issues to try and solve problems and questions. Well done, my friends, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1371 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Another side note: Many of us may or hope to sell lures to help or make a living. Yet here we are, all potential "competitors" working together on this and other issues to try and solve problems and questions. Well done, my friends, well done. yeah people don't understand they they might bet taking food off other peoples table by telling everyone peoples ideas that they worked hard for many years to come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks guys, I agree 100% on people on this forum helping each other out. I started reading through the forum from a tip from a buddy a few months ago when I told him I wanted to learn to paint my own baits. Didn't want to be a lurker so signed up and will try to contribute when I can. I'm amazed at all the creative ways people have shared to get the job done. If you eat/sleep & breathe fishing what a great hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent R Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Mark your right the netting won't melt if you keep the dryer moving.....but if you leave it there long enough it will. That's what i was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Mark your right the netting won't melt if you keep the dryer moving.....but if you leave it there long enough it will. That's what i was referring to. Thanks for the tip. I guess I've been lucky so far, or maybe the tulle I'm using is from higher melting point materials. I bought it in a fabric shop here in CA, so maybe it also has some kind of fire rating that gives it a higher melting point. We seem to have rules that cover just about everything out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 The tulle I've used doesn't melt. The loofa is what melts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I've never "melted" tulle, but you can get it hot enough that it becomes brittle and will break. It can be a major pain trying to pull it off a bait if it becomes brittle and starts tearing and breaking. I also use a heat gun so it may not be as much of a problem with someone who is using a hair dryer. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 The tulle I've used doesn't melt. The loofa is what melts! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent R Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 the shower loofah is what im talking about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) This is my crack at it. I think if the proper preparations are done a really nice job can be accomplished . I struggled with the lufa and putting the paint where I wanted it to go. To scared to try some stripes or more detail..lol. I'm sure it would look better with some thick epoxy. Just dipped in GST in the pics.I need to paint alot more before trying this again.I still make stupid mistakes that ruin the whole look of the bait.Have alot to learn.I got time so I'll keep plugging along. Relentless, that's looking real good. I think you are on the right track. I wonder if you did what Brent R said and shrunk the lufa in hot water, do you think it would also thicken the individual strands of the lufa material. My thoughts. Tek, glad you started this thread. John Edited December 22, 2013 by JBlaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekoutdoors.co Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Here is a couple of baits that I got painted this week. I think I may of about figured out on how he did it. I just put the shower loofa on the bait with no paint then painted it all white and then went to the colors. But I sprayed the colors front the back at an angle. It changed quite a bit with how steep of an angle you sprayed it at. I would like to make a video about how to spray this but I am not sure how my camera would work for this. I really want a camcorder for doing videos which I may have to invest in soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Those baits look great tek. I've been messing around with it myself. Obsessed with trying to crack the code. Even though we've come close with the lufa, I'm still not convinced. The uniformity of his scales is hard to match. A new tool in the bag though for future baits :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekoutdoors.co Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I will try and see if I have any of that diamond loofa stuff around. I though mine used to be like that but maybe I was using something different. It has to be in the way he puts it on and then the angle he sprays the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Another thought, I'm going to try and use two of the hoop sewing things to hold the loofa. Then sandwich both against the bait and stretch the loofas until they have the diamond shape then clamp the two together using plastic spring clamps. If it ever gets above freezing I will try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Stretch it around the bait and clamp underneath with 2 Popsicle sticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Stretch it around the bait and clamp underneath with 2 Popsicle sticks Hey Cougaftd! I know I probably sound stupid, not the first time lol, could you show how you roll and clamp the popsicle sticks. I read this in one other of your post I think on here somewhere but it is just not coming to me how you do it. Thank's If I only had a brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I will tonight...at work now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogAddict Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) I bought some tulle and I found that the mesh was far to fine but I liked the pattern so I sprayed it with some rattle can primer. It works much better now. The lines are a bit thicker. I wonder if that would help. Or maybe if you "stacked" some tulle on top of itself, you may get enough "side wall" to spray a shadow at an angle. Just throwing out some ideas,. I'm still trying to understand all this stuff but man it's fun! Edited January 10, 2014 by FrogAddict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent R Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Not all shower loofah's have the same pattern. Edited January 11, 2014 by Brent R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
