HighTide71 Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Has anyone ever made a hollow body frog? Like the Snag Proof tournament frog and such? By the way I am new to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm Customs Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 I have never heard of anyone making a hollow frog, but you can pour a frog from a mold and there are some good designs out for those. Heres my latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTide71 Posted June 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Thanks for the pic. Well if nobody tried making one themselves, does somebody know how it's done? For example the snag proof tournament frog. Are they blow molded or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Brush Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 HighTide71, I don't know but think it's done with rotocasting. I've considered building a 2 part plaster mold in a soup can,... dump in a teaspoon of plasti-dip tool grip plastic, seal the mold and load it onto a rock tumbler. Don't know if it would work but that's a way I thought of doing it. Tight lines, Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redg8r Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Shawns real close with the tool dip, thats a vinyl plastisol also & real close in consistency with the vinyl in those frogs. unfortunately Ive never meesed with it, but was curious about it also. rotocasting might be your best bet, maybe even slush casting depending on how long that stuff takes to setup in the mold. I think they make a hot melt version that would setup quickly. definitely keep us posted on it if you try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm Customs Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I was thinking you should talk to someone who makes tubes since thats the closest thing anyone here makes. Sorry I can't be more help. Tm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I have been making hollow frogs. It's really simple except that you have to make your own molds. The trick is to put the pour hole in ths middle of the body then after you've poured it full you pour out some of the plastic in the frog. Then rotate the mold to distribute whats left inside. Overall I wasn't happy with the results though. The fish ate em up alright, but they also tore up easily. One to two fish per bait. Unacceptable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Brush Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Bob, That is a sweeet lookin frog . I assume it's made of LC or Calhoun plastics? If you try the plasti-dip it should be a lot tougher and wont rip apart. Tight lines, Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm Customs Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Hey magic bob can you post some more detailed instruction on making the frog and mold it looks great. Thanks, Tm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Tim, here's a quick step by step for you. I used "Super Sculpey" modeling compound, and made the bottom half of the frog first by printing an outline from computer then placing a sheet of plastic transparency film over the printout. Modeled the bottom half of the frog flat on the film then cast the first half of the mold using Durham's water putty. After it set up I flipped it over and removed the film leaving the Super Sculpy in place then modeled the top half of the frog. I pressed the eyes into the modeling compound to create sockets. Then I coated the bottom mold with vaseline and cast the top half of the mold. After the top half of the mold sets up remove it and drill a 5/16 pour hole in the middle of the top of the body and the teeniest vent holes you can drill at any high points. I poured the white belly first then the rest. as soon as it fills pour a little out (you have to play around with how much) then rotate it slowly one time and let it cool. After removing the frog from mold trim the excess and melt the hole closed with a lighter. then glue the eyes on. BTW its a good idea to decide what hook you want to use and proportion the body accordingly. I used a 4/0 Owner EWG. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm Customs Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Bob can you please post a few pic of the mold it's self mabey it will help me to understand better. What did you mold the frog from? Another store bought frog? Thanks, Tm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Tim, I edited the text on my previous post to make it a little more clear. Can't do mold photos right now. I'll try to later when I have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tm Customs Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Bob when you get time here is what I'm having trouble with, this is what I understand you did please correct me if I'm wrong so I can get this right. You took some suclpy clay pushed your desing into it then made another side so it is a 2pice mold? What was the water putty used for I'm confused if you post a few pics of the molds I think I will understand a bit better. Thanks, Tm When ever you get time Bob no great hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Tim, the mold looks pretty much like any other 2-part mold. Attached is the drawing I used to make the frog. I printed it out then layed a piece of clear film over it and modeled the underside of the frog. Then I put this in a box and cast the first half of the mold with Durham's. Then I removed the film leaving the Sculpey in place in the first half of the mold and proceeded to model the upper half of the frog on top of the bottom which was still in the mold. Then I cast the top half of the mold. The rest is in above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsac Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 I kinda see how he's confused. Did you use the film as a sort of release agent to get the durham's out of the box? If not, what is the purpose of the film? Other than keeping the clay from having direct contact with the paper picture. Then I removed the film leaving the Sculpey in place When you say 'box' , are you refering more to a frame? Like you placed a wooden (or whatever type) of frame (box) over the film and sculpey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBob Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Woodsac, the film does both. Keeps the Sculpey from sticking to the paper and makes a clean smooth surface on the mold. The "box" is my version of a molding frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsac Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Soungs good Bob! I can understand the directions no problem now knowing that. I think the confusion was with the 'box. I asked myself 'how did he get the film out without taking out the mold?' Thanks for clearing that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTide71 Posted June 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Thanks so much for the info guys! Thats a cool looking frog too Magicbob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro_Bass Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Please MagicBob, I can't see the pics!! " images are not available! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 ummmmm, you just dug up a post from 2004, images and poster are probably gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro_Bass Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 SHK, thank you anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
