bass shack Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 has any one tried to make bills or dip balsa in alumilite clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy G Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I often make my lips out of Lexan. I rough cut with tin shears and then sand to size with the dremel and sanding drum. I have also heard of people using g-10, and garolite in the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archeryrob Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yes, I design my bills in autoCad for a lure, Once i find one I like I can resize it for different sized lured and size the blade up or down the same. There are templates online. http://www.luremaking.com/catalogue/download_tips.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 lips-bandsaw... very easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass shack Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I just wanted to know has made crankbody with a 2 pice silicone mold, is alumilite strong enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoya Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I use a router and a template to make my own lips out of Lexan or G-10. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I use a router and a template to make my own lips out of Lexan or G-10. Gene Your method is particularly well crafted. I have threatened to adapt it but haven't figured out how to incorporate a centerline in the template. What I mean is, my method is slower than yours, but the template I glue to the polycarbonate has a centerline down the middle of the lip... I rough cut the lip then use a bandsaw to shape it down to the template. I leave the template attached, but I peel enough of it off so that the area that is inserted into the bait is exposed. The centerline on the template helps me align the lip perfectly when the lip is installed...not to much to one side or the others when it is glued in. I've considered trying your method but I'm not sure I would get the centerline centered when attaching the template to the jig you use when you cut the polycarbonate with the router bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoya Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 Vince, When I say that I use a template, I'm using a permanent template made out of hardwood with a handle that I attach the polycarbonate to. Then, I use a laminate trim bit with a bearing on the end of it. The wood template rides against router bit. I can't help you with the centerline though. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j27 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I use a router and a template to make my own lips out of Lexan or G-10. Gene I do this as well, what do you use to attach the lexan to the template? I'm currently using double sided scotch tape. Was wondering there could be something better. Thanks , John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PondBoss Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I've cut a few from tackle box devidors. Worked great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I don't think anyone actually answered the question: can you use Alumilite Clear to make a lip? I don't use Alumilite so can't answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I don't think the alumlite will hold up. I've never tried to make bills out of it. The guys that I know that make bodies out of alumlite insert a bill into the mold. For swimming baits it might work, but if your banging the bill off of thr bottom.. I don't think it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robalo01 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Has anybody here actually tried to make bills out of some kind of epoxy? I made some out of clear poly resin. They worked but did chip pretty easily. I think an epoxy resin might be more adequate. Edited December 26, 2013 by robalo01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunebugsCustoms Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I have tried several methods to fabricate my own bills. Lexan makes a nice bill, but tends to shatter in cold the colder temps like early season fishing. alumilite doesn't hold up to the stresses of fluid dynamics. You can buy sheets of circuit board and cut your own, but it is no fun to cut it without a die cutter or a roller cut. I have even used tongue depressors reinforced with epoxy, which made a decent bill, flexible enough not to break and stiff enough for good action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robalo01 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I have a manual press that can be fitted with a die. Wonder what it would take to make a set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Lincoya, I would love to have your help with a centerline for your method...which is hands down the best thing I've seen for making perfect diving lips of a consistent size. Edited December 31, 2013 by fatfingers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunebugsCustoms Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 to cut circuit board cleanly, you need a special roller type die. A linear type die like in a shop press will cause the edges of the lip to crush out and delaminate. A roller type die actually shears the material, similar to the action of a paper cutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Junebugcustombaits , You said you had " Lexan" shatter in cold water...Are you sure it was lexan and not plexiglass?....I 've never had cold water effect lexan but it sure will make plexiglass brittle...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunebugsCustoms Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 You know, now that you mention it, I honestly couldn't be sure, but that's an excellent point to make....may help save someone a little heartache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawjacker Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 I have been punching my own lips for 20 years or better and never had any problems with the dies in a shop press "Crushing" any of the materials that I use.........Its all in the way the stamp is made that makes it work properly......Junebug you have seen all of my lures at the show.......I stamp all those lips with a shop press and dies made in my shop......they are not that hard to make....they just take a lot of time to get them done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunebugsCustoms Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 You ready for the show, Rob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoya Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 j27, I also use a double-sided tape. I tried the Scotch but wasn't impressed with it's holding properties. Vince, I don't have any special method for centering the lips other than just "eyeballing" them. I do get them off-center occasionally but for the most part I am pretty close most of the time. Junebugs, Take a sharp knife and cut the edge of your Lexan. If it cuts smoothly, it's Lexan. If it chips, it's plexi-glass. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawjacker Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I guess im as ready as I will get .....there is a couple thousand baits done.....but I am sure there will be someone that wants something I don't have.......LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp powers Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Where can I purchase the sheets of white g-10 or white phenolic ? Thanks CP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 j27, I also use a double-sided tape. I tried the Scotch but wasn't impressed with it's holding properties. Vince, I don't have any special method for centering the lips other than just "eyeballing" them. I do get them off-center occasionally but for the most part I am pretty close most of the time. Junebugs, Take a sharp knife and cut the edge of your Lexan. If it cuts smoothly, it's Lexan. If it chips, it's plexi-glass. Gene Could you apply a paper template with a centerline marked on it to the top of your bill after it's on the jig, but before you actually shape it? I don't use a template. I cut my bills out of rectangular strips of lexan that I cut out on the radial arm saw. I put some blue painter's tape on the blank, use a compass to put a centerline on the tape, and work to that. It works for me, but I build lures one a time, not production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
