Basstriker Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I was wondering if anyone has experience with the multi-colored or two tone powder coating? I have seen it being used at the Boss brand jig heads and would like to try my hand at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I have had very good luck dipping the a single coat and then taping off and spay painting with krypton fusion for the second color. You can also bake the frost color completely and then add your second color using powder paint tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Basstriker, There are several ways to achieve multicolored jigs. #1 The tap method which I have been using for years. See my avatar, it has 6 color on it, #2 Any spray can method, which you can spray on and tape off. You might have to use a clear coat to keep the paint from chipping off. #3 You can apply powder on with a special air brush and achieve beautiful multi colored jig/spinnerbaits. Smalljaw a member here is the man that has that process down. He may chime in here. #4 A fluid bed quick and easy. As you can see there are many ways to achieve beautiful painted jigs. Find what works easy for you and practice till you become efficient at it. Everything take time and patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 The picture below is a perch pattern spinnerbait I just did, my photography skills are bad but you can sort of see some colors in it. The belly is white with an orange throat, the body is made up of layered colors, transparent gold, candy yellow, and then candy green with black back. I did this with a Badger model 260 hobby sandblaster, it is similar to what is being sold as the powder paint air brush. I started using that as I wasn't getting good with the tap method that Cadman is so good at but you can get the same results using either method. The tap method takes time and practice as does the spray method but multi colors can look ok with powder, you just can't get fine detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 The picture below is a perch pattern spinnerbait I just did, my photography skills are bad but you can sort of see some colors in it. The belly is white with an orange throat, the body is made up of layered colors, transparent gold, candy yellow, and then candy green with black back. I did this with a Badger model 260 hobby sandblaster, it is similar to what is being sold as the powder paint air brush. I started using that as I wasn't getting good with the tap method that Cadman is so good at but you can get the same results using either method. The tap method takes time and practice as does the spray method but multi colors can look ok with powder, you just can't get fine detail. The picture is in the galley under spinnerbaits with the title "perch". Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscatcher89 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Basstriker, There are several ways to achieve multicolored jigs. #1 The tap method which I have been using for years. See my avatar, it has 6 color on it, #2 Any spray can method, which you can spray on and tape off. You might have to use a clear coat to keep the paint from chipping off. #3 You can apply powder on with a special air brush and achieve beautiful multi colored jig/spinnerbaits. Smalljaw a member here is the man that has that process down. He may chime in here. #4 A fluid bed quick and easy. As you can see there are many ways to achieve beautiful painted jigs. Find what works easy for you and practice till you become efficient at it. Everything take time and patience. Excuse my ignorance i had a question about this as well can you explain the tap method? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I use the powder paint airbrush on my saltwater jigs for a two tone effect and it works great. I have also done the brush tap method on top of that. It works good also. I have done jigs dipped in one color in my fluid bed and then only halfway in the next color for another two tone effect, I don't really care for this method as much but It does work especially on my longer saltwater jigs. Not sure how it would work on small bass fishing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 A simple version of the tap method is two colors of powder paint. Let's say you want a white and yellow/chart jig, with yellow chartreuse being on top of your jig. The way I would do this, if I had more than 20 to do, is this way. Get all your supplies ready. What you will need is a fluid bed with white powder paint in it, a jar of yellow chartreuse, and a small artist brush(es) #2 and #1 #1 Take your hot jig and swish it in a fluid bed with white powder paint. #2 As soon as you take the jig out of your fluid bed, take your artist brush and stick it in the yellow chartreuse powder paint. Then take the brush and lightly tap the powder onto the hot jig. DO NOT TOUCH THE BRUSH TO THE HOT JIG. #3 When you feel like you have the correct effect you want on your jig, put it on a rack to cool, then when you are all done, put everything into a toaster oven to cure. That's it in a nutshell for two colors. Multi-colors take a lot more planning in what color you want where and which ones go on first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstriker Posted December 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I wanted to say thanks to you all for your input. What a great forum for information. I'm looking forward to giving this a try. I found some video on the tap method you guys are using and I now see what your talking about. I look forward to giving this a try. Ted I sent you an email a little bit ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 That's what is funny Candman, on another forum I frequent, the one guy touches the brush to the jig, and I replied not to. Well, because this guy has 10,000 post, and I only have 200, he was "right". There is no wrong I guess, whatever works for you is the right way, but I never touch the brush to the jig either. I did buy the airbrush, but after 2 years have only played with it one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 BLT, I 've tried it my way with a hot jig and accidentally touched the brush, and the brush got stuck to the wet hot paint, which in turn screwed up the paint job and damaged the brushes bristles. Now the only way I see touching a brush to a jig is if the jig is cold. I have tried this and yes you can tap on powder paint on a cold jig and then swirl it around and then heat it. However that is not the way I do my jigs. Now I would like to see this guys work. I just can't grasp myself around the fact that someone can actually touch a bristle brush on a hot painted jig. I would really like to see this done and the final outcome of the finished jig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Haven't seen any samples. Wonder what type of bristles he is using also. Don't think it would matter, it would still stick paint from the precious layers. Maybe he just has that much paint on his brisltes that he can touch the paint to it w/o touching the bristles directly on it. Sounds like a blotchy paint job to me if that wsa the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have gotten away with touching with a course brush, but I think my head wasn't too hot, other times I've had a massive mess. Peronally I rarely tap now, I use the standard badger airbrush, and can do multiple colours easily enough, just the amount of lost paint can be a pain, as can overspray. I've got hi temp paint coming that should help a bit, but it will give me crisp lines rather than blended. Another alternative is to follow cadmans example but use two fluid beds - should work, dip full colour then heat and dip the highlight, just need to be sure you dip the correct depth. Fluid beds frustrate me too much personally, but I make spinnerbaits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 A couple of blends done with the brush fairly subtle, bottom is a tri colour. One I taped up - not using Hi Temp tape so wasn't perfect but the principle showed it will work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscatcher89 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I was wondering about using a salt shaker filled with powder paint. If I want a chartruse spinnerbait with a black back. Dip in chartruse then have the salt shaker with black ready and use that. Not sure how well it will work i'm going to give it a try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I was wondering about using a salt shaker filled with powder paint. If I want a chartruse spinnerbait with a black back. Dip in chartruse then have the salt shaker with black ready and use that. Not sure how well it will work i'm going to give it a try though. That is how you learn!!!!! All of us that have been doing this a long time have created methods that work for us, but we help and let you know how we do something and then it is up to you to make it work. Most here use the same methods but I bet each one is a little different because you tweak it in a way that may work best for you. The salt shaker idea has been around and it is a good way of adding a second color but if it doesn't work the first time try making the holes bigger or taping some off, mess with it, you may find that it really works for you. Let us know how it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscatcher89 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 That is how you learn!!!!! All of us that have been doing this a long time have created methods that work for us, but we help and let you know how we do something and then it is up to you to make it work. Most here use the same methods but I bet each one is a little different because you tweak it in a way that may work best for you. The salt shaker idea has been around and it is a good way of adding a second color but if it doesn't work the first time try making the holes bigger or taping some off, mess with it, you may find that it really works for you. Let us know how it goes. Will do thats why I like this site its good for bouncing ideas off of everybody. I had already been thinking about taping holes off and trying it. I tried the tap method last night and it turned out ok I was having a hard time getting the paint to fall where i wanted lol. Maybe I was holding to far away from the bait. They still turned out like i wanted. Going to play with it some more as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 There is no right way or wrong way to achieve what you want. It's all up to you on how you want it to look. We all have our specialties on how we achieve our creations. As mentioned, the only way to learn, is to ask questions and above all as my signature reads "Practice, practice and more practice." I cannot emphasize this enough. All of us that have been doing this awhile have put in hundreds of hours painting, with many aggravated days and a lot of mistakes. This is the only way you will learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstriker Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was reading somewhere a guy took a old 35mm film case and drilled holes in the top of that to better control the powder. Maybe that might work better for you? I'm about to give it a try for the first time myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 These are some saltwater jigs I made using the powder paint airbrush to give them a 2 toned effect. I just wasnt happy with the salt shaker results but the airbrush works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Very nice job on those jigs. How many inches are those skirts? Where do you get yours? I only use green, and the glow white. I know you do the huge jigs, but I don't have any need for anything but 4.75" long. I pay around $29/100. The glow skirts seem to be a lot thisker than the other colors I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) BLT,I bought those Skirts at a local tackle shop at an end of season clearance sale at 4 for $1. They normally sell them for $1 each. The only other source I have for them is Alexi Express online and they are ~$.58 each and I haven't yet bought any there. They are a 2 piece double skirt. Not the skirt tabs like the bass guys use. The skirts are similar to a hootchie or squid skirt. What I have been doing is to separate the 2 skirts and use the smaller inner skirts on smaller jigs and the larger outer skirts on the larger sizes. They are ~6 inches long. Edited January 2, 2014 by Kasilofchrisn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLT Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 I get mine through a distributor, but not sure who makes them. 4.75" is the biggest he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian ranger619 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 here is another trick you might try with the tap method. I found some small table spoon size strainers at WalMart, the fine mesh holds the powder paint really nice. I then took the handle and bent it over the top. when I want to two tone I just run my jig through the first color and then tap the handle of my strainer for the amount of color I want to add as my second color. the color combos are endless try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstriker Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 here is another trick you might try with the tap method. I found some small table spoon size strainers at WalMart, the fine mesh holds the powder paint really nice. I then took the handle and bent it over the top. when I want to two tone I just run my jig through the first color and then tap the handle of my strainer for the amount of color I want to add as my second color. the color combos are endless try it. Brian can you post a picture of your strainer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
