Darkman Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 what kind of wood do you use for the following 1) Swimbaits 2) Gliders thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 what kind of wood do you use for the following 1) Swimbaits 2) Gliders thank you ................we have a search function in here , .......you may utilize it as well , ......I came up with this thread from last year : http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/topic/25503-woods/?hl=+different%20+woods%20+for%20+different%20+lures Some others around as well , though . Cheers , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted December 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I know how to use it and have used it...I would like an answer on this post please...thank you for the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I know how to use it and have used it...I would like an answer on this post please...thank you for the link Just found another one that may help : http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/topic/15699-newbe-lure-builder-needs-direction/?hl=%2Bdifferent+%2Bwoods+%2Bfor+%2Bdifferent+%2Blures#entry118960 Maybe this answers your questions better , .......otherwise it's not that easy to tell on a distance , ......also depends on the size and body volume of your planned baits . The material buoancy must match the lure size , as things like neccessary ballast weight(to achieve the right action) and also the weight of lip , paint and hardware play their part , ......naturally a swimbait would come up with more harware compared to a glider . But also space to insert ballast may be limited on a swimbait , .......In a nutshell ,....... I would probably make same lure types of different sizes out of differently buoyant material . How large do you plan your lures ? Greetz , diemai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted December 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 not big at all for both, I cant throw all day anymore so all of the baits I used are about 6-8 inches now but I know zero about wood other than the stuff I can get at HD or lowes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 @ darkman Haha , ...6-8 inches still sounds large to me .....but everything's bigger in America(I'm in Germany) . As we are of the same age I fully understand your issues about casting big lures , got my bones sore , too ! For glidebaits of that size you may use maple , teak or meranti , ........not so sure about swimbaits , .....I might use abache wood , but obviously this stuff is not available in the US , we've had a discussion about it before in here . Better to make swimbaits out of PVC decking , anyway , since this way you would not have any issues regarding water sepage at the numerous joints or hinges . Maybe wait until Mark Poulson or another one of our timber gurus would hopefully chime in , ...they'd surely be able to tell you more , ...also , since I'm too far away . Greetz , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted December 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 thank you I just like a ton of input...going to seriously look in to PVC, in January ill be making my way to marks house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 @ darkman ...........after that visit you'd get back home as an PVC swimbait expert , ....I can promise you ! Greetz , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 thank you I just like a ton of input...going to seriously look in to PVC, in January ill be making my way to marks house When you stop by I'll give you some PVC trimboard to try. Just remind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I've used oak, cherry, poplar, and even cedar. Cedar give you the latitude to favor one end of the bait over the other when you are placing the necessary weights...you can get a certain nose down effect or even a dive and rise affect that is more pronounced than you get from oak or cherry. But, you naturally need more lead. Oak and cherry seem to get consistent results for me when a certain action is desired. I've heard of guys using maple and mahogany too. I've used maple, but I dread working with it. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thujalures Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Northern white cedar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 cedar. learn weighting procedures. for us its less expensive. would love hinduras mahogany or abache but. its very expensive and creates a larger cost on production runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyCreekFisherman Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 can anyone help with which wood is preferred for crankbaits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 For bass cranks I like cedar but my lungs don't! I recently switched to basswood and poplar. I think I'm going to stick to poplar. Same action and I believe it finishes out nicer. Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyCreekFisherman Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 -thanks and do you know where online i can get poplar or basswood??? shipped in blocks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I just asked the same question last week. I bought some basswood from a place but I think the guy running the plainer was drunk. I ordered 1/2" thickness but I got everything from 7/16ths to 9/16ths. Look under the post "online lumber". I found poplar at Lowe's and after working with it I'm sold. Basswood is nice but when you sand it the grains lift real easy. Same when I hit it with the router. Poplar doesn't do that. Its also alot more dense then basswood but seems just as bouyant. Not sure what your making but I'm into flatsided cranks right now and poplar is doing the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy G Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 can anyone help with which wood is preferred for crankbaits? I use a lot of cedar, but also have used pine, popular, pine, basswood, and balsa. Pine, popular, and cedar can be found at almost any lumber retailers, and I usually buy balsa and basswood off of ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt M Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I use cypress. It is harder than balsa but not as dense as poplar. Old timers used to carve duck decoys from cypress because it does well in wet applications. It seemed like an easy choice for me plus it's readily available for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archeryrob Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I use the Poplar boards from Lowes for Cranks and jerkbaits. For topwaters I like clear cedar. I have not messed with the PVC boards, but it sounds interesting. I make lure templates in CAD and just glue them on the board showing the drill holes for hangers/weights and dive blade position/angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyCreekFisherman Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 barr5150- thanks for that info...im just starting out and decided that flatsided cranks are the lures i want to make for right now. ive been reading up on several different post and would like to pick your brain on how "you" go about making yours. just to get some ideas!! ive seen poplar online in 6 to 12 foot long pieces but being in the middle of the ocean i can just have that shipped out here...do you know of anywhere that sells in like 6" blocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 OK...you asked. PLEASE keep in mind this is how I do it. It seems everyone on here does it a little different. This way works for me so I stick with it. I complete every lure I do in the same manner in the order below. The list below is for my favorite flat sided crank. It's right at 2.5" long and a little over an inch tall at it's fattest part. 1. Mark the shape of the lure from a master pattern that's been tested onto the poplar boards. 2. Cut the ruff shape on the bandsaw leaving the pencil line showing. 3. Bring the blank to the pencil line on a disc sander and I use a drum sander for the curved belly section. 4. Mark ballast, line tie & hook hanger locations. 5. Mark the centers of those locations (center of the lure). 6. I run the blank on the router table fitted with a 3/16" rounding bit. 7. Drill the line tie hole & the rear hook hole on the lathe with a 1/16" drill bit. Each hole 1" deep. The lathe keeps the holes straight. 8. Drill the ballast hole with the drill press with a 17/64" brad point drill bit 3/8" deep. I made a simple jig that holds the blank square. 9. Drill the front hook hole with a 1/16" bit 1" deep. 10. Hand sand lure with 150 grit for poplar, 220 for cedar/basswood. 11. install a trim nail in the rear hook hanger hole. 2" nails work good. 12. Dip bait in it's first coat of sealer and let it hang dry. I use GST concrete sealer. 13. Epoxy in ballast weight. I pour my own which are like 1/4" x 1/4". They work out to be just over 2 grams. 14. Wood putty over the ballast weight. I like elmers carpenters wood putty. It comes in a small square container and works great. 15. Re-sand lure by hand. 220 grit this time for poplar. 320 grit for cedar/basswood. 16. Move the trim nail to the front line tie hole. 17. Dip in second coat of GST. You'll get one drip after a minute of hanging. Make sure you wipe it off. 18. Dip in third coat of GST. Same deal...don't let any drips dry to the bottom. 19. Scotch brite lure quickly. Your just looking to knock off any imperfections. 20. Place a small piece of wire in the rear hook hanger hole. 21. Dip in primer. I use Restoleum acrylic enamel cut with acetone to about 7:1. Hang to dry from the trim nail. The wire helps with the drips. 22. Layout and drill your eye locations with a 1/4" forstner bit. Unless you hand paint them. I like the stick in ones. 23. Cut the lip slot on the band saw. For this lure I have 3 different degree angles that I like. 24. Re-drill the hook hanger holes and the line tie hole with a 3/32" bit, 1" deep. 25. Paint lure. I use createx, cheap craft paint (apple barrel), whatever. If it sticks it fair game. 26. Epoxy in line tie and hook hangers. I use twisted wire ones I make from 19 guage SS wire. They are right at 1 -1/8" overall length. 27. Sign lure. I use a sharpie pen. Heat set it then hit it with a quick coat of rattle can acrylic clear. 28. Dip the first of 4 coats of GST watching for drips. 29. Split rings and hooks. 30. Tune line tie so the crank runs true. AGAIN remember this is how I do it. LOTS of trial and error to get this list where it is. If you need any other help let me know. I took so much from this site it feels good to give back a little. As far purchasing poplar I buy it at Lowes home improvement in 4" x 4' x 1/2" boards. It's under $5 and I can get 4 dozen blanks from one piece. Let me know if you need anything else. -Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I still find basswood about my favorite to use on cranks. Just works too easy not to like it. Then last year was given several 4x8 and 6x8 of it so have more than enough for a crank or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Google "wood turning blanks" and you will get a number of different suppliers. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyCreekFisherman Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 bryan- thanks for all the knowledge..as soon as i get back home i plan to make quite a bit of cranks cause thats what i mainly use and this info was very helpful!!! knowing how someone does it step by step really puts things in prospective on how to begin put pieces together fairly quickly. right now the only tools i really have available to me are my pocket knife, sandpaper, and the paint but im sure ill have a workbench full of stuff waiting on me at home after i ask my wife to get all the items i need. once again thank you for sharing your process with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallystrothers Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 For larger lures I prefer either yellow poplar or aspen. Aspen is one of the harder softwoods and yellow poplar is a softer hardwood. They both have a similar density and can be found at most hardware stores (nice feature for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
