Reelentless Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Like the title says,I'm painting plastic blanks with Createx. I'm heat setting with heat gun and making sure its dry.This is the third time it's happened WTF? Anyone else notice this? Sometimes it adds to the look but others where "white" highlights were important. ...I got light pink or blue. So frustrating. Painted probably the best crank I ever painted to date and toasted it last night. Any ideas? Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Wow with all that's been posted about it I don't recall anyone else having that problem, good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 There is some info under the LONG GST post that's going about paint bleeding. Basically you need to protect your work with a coat of rattle can acrylic or createx top coat before sealing with GST. Through trial and error I found that GST will eat and what it won't. To be on the safe side I have been using a quick coat of acrylic enamel on everything. I personally don't like the createx clear, it gums up my iwata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 To be on the safe side I have been using a quick coat of acrylic enamel on everything. I personally don't like the createx clear, it gums up my iwata. I will try the acrylic enamel. I just recently tried the Createx clear over some sharpie gills and that bled as well with the Gst. Your so right about that stuff gumming up the gun. Just bought a big bottle too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 GST loves to eat sharpie ink! Might be okay if your going for a bleeding gill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Yeah that particular bait the bleeding gill turned out ok but just hate surprises in this stage of the game. I'm a newbie at painting so learning as I go. I'm finally making some progress painting now and the top coat is the next puzzle. Epoxy I like but have about a 50% screw up rate. On a side note for anyone interested, I did a test. I dipped in gst...then epoxied...then dipped in gst with no ill effects. I wanted to see if there would be some sort of reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I'm relatively new to the game myself ( about 3 years ). Everything involving lure construction/painting has been fairly easy to figure out with the help from this site. Top coating on the other hand has sucked! I've tried pretty much all of them and GST so far has been the cheapest and easiest for me. Dip & hang, can't get much easier then that. I even use GST as my wood sealer now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) I had gst issues at first, I realized I was not heat setting my paint long enough! I use a hair dryer. Edited December 23, 2013 by nedyarb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) I've used the Createx gloss top coat numerous times and never had any issues with it gumming up my Iwata. I've even mixed flake in with it at times. How long are you guys leaving it in the airbrush? If your spraying a large amount of lures I might see this happening, but it shouldn't be a problem on just a few baits. As far as properly heat setting the Createx application guide says the paint should be heated until it is warm to the touch. That's if you don't have a controlled way of applying, or measuring, how much heat is applied. Ben Edited December 23, 2013 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I'm sure my problems with createx top coat are self induced. Typically when I'm done spraying I shoot a little windex through the gun and call it close. I never have a problem unless I'm using paint that's cut with floor cleaner ( it's thick too ). Once a month I tear the gun down and clean with acetone. Windex isn't enough to clean the createx clear out of the gun. I found myself pulling the needle out of the gun with a piar of plyers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Sounds to me like your problems aren't because of the Createx clear. Your cleaning regimen might need a little work though. JMHO Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball24311 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I was having troubles with gst recently no matter how much I heat set the paint and the gst worked great early this fall. Thought maybe it was the conditions of the room I was dipping in which was a lot cooler than early fall. I put an electric space heater in the room and got it nice and warm and then dipped and problem solved. A lot fewer drips in the gst, seemed like it flashed off faster and didn't have time to work through all the paint layers. Just something to think about could be ambient conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted December 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'll have to check into that baseball. I figure the basement is around 60-65 degrees..It happens almost instantly. These are hollow plastic cranks if that makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-bone lures Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Have a airbrush just for white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball24311 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 My basement was around 60 degrees when I was having troubles. I put the jar I dip into right in front of an electric heater, and got it nice and warm. I never really had a problem with the paint bleeding though it was more the paint just wrinkling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
