capt mike Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I have been using line thru inserts that I ordered online for pouring my soft swimbaits. After a few months, they begin to corrode inside and change the plastic to a green color. My store bought Osprey Talons have a similar insert inside, but that does not occur. What in the world is going on here? Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Maybe you need to coat your inserts. I have line-thru swimbaits that have inserts which turned white over time. It's the lead oxidizing. Maybe a coat of clear nail polish, or even a topcoat dip, will do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt mike Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 is that what you have done in the past Mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Material is low grade of the insert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt mike Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Material is low grade of the insert. What do you recommend? These were from basstackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) I haven't tried it, but it shouldn't ruin the insert or the bait. I'm thinking of trying the nail polish on a lead-weighted hook that I pour into a swimbait mold I have. If and when I do it, I'll let you know how it comes out. Edited December 31, 2013 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 They are aluminum correct? Are they being used in saltwater? Generally 5052 has better corrosion resistance. Than 6061. 6061 is generally found in machined products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Epoxy coat the ones you have and then find another source for the next ones . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I wouldn't think it is activating with the plastic, the molds don't. If you examine your molds closely you will also find some manufacturers use less grade aluminum in building them. Good idea on epoxying them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Are these made with dissimilar metals? Add salt and water to that and corrosion is assured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) With LEAD You are going to get the corrosion . As TF said coat them with Epoxy or Powder Paint. I am not fimiliar with what Aluminum will do over a course of time. With Molds you are not letting the Plastilsol COAT or Sit for any length of time ... I have cast Aluminmu Molds from back in the 60's and the only ones that have any corrosin are those that got wet accidently in storage. In regards to Nail Polish .. unless it has been changed .... WILL react with the plastisol .. the Nail polish reacts as the same with Lacquer. Hope that helps Edited January 1, 2014 by JSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 With LEAD You are going to get the corrosion . As TF said coat them with Epoxy or Powder Paint. I am not fimiliar with what Aluminum will do over a course of time. With Molds you are not letting the Plastilsol COAT or Sit for any length of time ... I have cast Aluminmu Molds from back in the 60's and the only ones that have any corrosin are those that got wet accidently in storage. In regards to Nail Polish .. unless it has been changed .... WILL react with the plastisol .. the Nail polish reacts as the same with Lacquer. Hope that helps Thanks for the heads up. I'll stick to a top coat, and see how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt mike Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Where can I get good inserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Where can I get good inserts? I dont think there is any other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt mike Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 My next idea is to use a urethane plastic resin insert that I cast myself. Do you think that will react with plastisol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitjunkys Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 How much wait you need? All I want a line thru for is a little ballast.My plastic will get it to sink as fast as I want. Pour a little splitshot into the resin if you want more weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinamike Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Capt Mike, LureWorks makes a special coating for this purpose. So you can use your same inserts without any adverse effects. Also, this coating will make the plastic adhere to the insert. With this material you should get very satisfing results. I can't remember the name of it right off just call Bruce at ext. 106, tell him what you need, and he will fix you right up. You may have to leave him a message but he will call you back. Their number is 912-225-4533. This should take care of your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt mike Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 How are you going to get enough weight with that? I will make it big enough (not too big) to add the weight I need. And, like baitjunky said, I can always add lead to the resin pour which will lock the lead in and not react with the plastisol. I like a slow sinker that works like the Osprey Talon. Im using fairly small inserts from Basstackle in a 5oz platic swimbait. It barely gets the baits to swim straight. Too fast and it goes sideways. But it's slow enough to fish deep. My only question is, will the resin react with the plastisol. Carolina Mike, thanks for that info. I will definitely look into that coating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lajo1976 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Its called Bondcoat http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-691-bondcoat-glue-4849.aspx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...