BlueCHip Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Anyone knOw where I can get this foil? It's a scaled foil with adhesive on the back. Seems to be super thin and plyanle. Or have any other brands or sources they recommend? Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looks like the writing on the back of the foil is in Japanese and English? Have you looked at the foil tape used for duct work I've seen it used by putting it over some metal screen and raking a pen or other hard object over it to create the scale affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Not sure exactly what type of foil is being used in the video, but a lot of folks here at TU use Venture BriteBak aluminum foil. It's an adhesive backed foil and seems to be thinner than some of the foil used for sealing duct work. I get mine from Sunshine Glass Works at the link below. You'll have to scroll down a little ways to find the foil. The scales are done by using a straight edge and something like a smooth edged butter knife run alongside of the straight edge to create a slight indentation. I don't know of any foil that comes with the scale pattern already on it. If you decide to go with this foil and want some help with applying the scale pattern just holler and I will go into more detail. good luck, Ben http://www.sunshineglass.com/rcol/i-proj/mosaic-access.htm Edited January 4, 2014 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCHip Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 THank you both. I will try the duct material first. Shipping is about the same cost for a role of the venture product. Do you create the scale pattern after applied? I would think that the scales would be flattened out during application if you made them first. Do you epoxy over the tape? Or spray a coat of clear? Anything I need to do to prep the lead? In the vid it looks like he sprayed them white first? For adhesion assistance? Thanks! CHRIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I have seen them on youtube they will imprint the scale pattern before and it holds up to handling even saw that done with plain old tinfoil but I have no personal experience with it. I would suggest that you clear coat after your finished, you do know that you can purchase various colored foils from places like Do-It for this purpose as well as the clear coat product, get a look at their site you might see something you like there. As far as prepping the lead if its oxidized I would resolve that first, think someone said to just clean with vinegar the best thing to do is post some of your questions over on the wire baits forum you'll have a better chance getting good answers there that's where the lead guys hang out. Good luck and post some pics when ya get er done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I make the scale pattern before applying the foil to the lure. The foil isn't hard to apply on a fairly flat surface so not much burnishing is needed. Where you start running into difficulty is on baits with compound curves. The sharper the curves the harder it is to get the foil to lay down properly. I wouldn't think a flutter jig would be hard to do from looking at pictures of them. They look fairly flat and don't seem to have a radius that is too tight. The BriteBak foil has a fairly strong adhesive, but I've never tried the foil used for duct work so I can't speak about it. The strong adhesive on the BriteBak will help hold the foil down when working it smooth on a curved part of the lure. If you need help applying the scale pattern to the foil just holler back and I'll explain how I do it. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCHip Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Thanks guys. Going to give it a try tomorrow Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 you can buy a scale roller that taxidermist use that will roll a fish scales,,,, look on any taxidermist web site.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin24018 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 do an ebay search for holographic vinyl, sign company's sell it, it's also used for hula hoops, not sure about it's water resistance properties though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...