wvspeck Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Do you have to put anything over the foil before painting? I know some use the D2t to smooth out the lines, but was curious if the paint would stick to foil if you don't. I plan to finish with D2 over the paint. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 A lot of guys put a coat of epoxy over the foil and give it a light sanding to promote paint adhesion and hide the foil edges. I don't because the foil I use is thin enough that I can burnish the edges to make them disappear. The drawback is that you can wipe dry paint off the foil if you aren't careful but so far I haven't had any problems with the D2T epoxy topcoat coming off the lure, nor with Dick Nite S81 moisture cured urethane. So to me, it boils down to an esthetic choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If you're painting directly over foil, you gotta be super careful because, like Bob mentioned, even dried paint will wipe off. When brushing your epoxy, try not to "dry brush" because it will literally "roll" the paint off the foil. It's really best to epoxy first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy_85 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Another option would be to spray lacquer clearcoat over the foil to give it a little separation between the paint and the foil, to let the foil shine through a little better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePaintsBaits Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Everything Above & My 2 Cents After You paint The Bait and/or Baits & Waiting To Clear Coat , Hang The Baits , That Way You Avoid Any Paint Being Rubbed Off. Mike P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Another option would be to spray lacquer clearcoat over the foil to give it a little separation between the paint and the foil, to let the foil shine through a little better... Some top coats react with lacquer paint, so do some testing first. Edited January 13, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy_85 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 True, Mark. But it should work fine with the epoxy finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvspeck Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thanks everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadeeng Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Bob: what kind of foil do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wadeeg, I use Venture Brite-Bak foil, designed for stained glass art. Their silver/chrome color works fine and has a very good adhesive backing. It's thin, strong, and take scale texturing well. Their "gold" foil looks like brass versus gold and tends to discolor after application (unless they changed it after I got some a few years ago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvspeck Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I just used the stuff that they tape duct work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So I'm in the process of foiling now, I have covered the foil with devcon2. Before painting I need to scuff the epoxy lightly correct. I was planning on heat setting the paint then dipping the bait in fat am I on the right track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Sorry not fat lol. I meant the gst. Clear coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankpaint Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I just finished posting some baits i make and foil them then epoxy then paint as its makes the bait look a lot better that way becouse if you paint it first any slight flaw will show in the paint (like the edge of the foil or a small dent in the wood)with the epoxy over the foil and wood first it acts like a filler and smooths everything out so you get a better looking finished lure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I just finished posting some baits i make and foil them then epoxy then paint as its makes the bait look a lot better that way becouse if you paint it first any slight flaw will show in the paint (like the edge of the foil or a small dent in the wood)with the epoxy over the foil and wood first it acts like a filler and smooths everything out so you get a better looking finished lure Very nice baits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Just be careful heat setting it's more like heat drying as setting or curing if you prefer requires temps that will cause issues such as cooking the adhesives used to secure the 2 halves of the blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankpaint Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 thanks mark the golden shiner works for big bass too its a 10 inch bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
