FrogAddict Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I've searched and only found one reference to sealing PVC. Do you guys seal PVC and if so what do you use? I'm thinking about gst since that's what I'm using for my topcoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Just an Fyi, I dipped a plastic crank before painting and had paint actually slide when redipping for the top coat. I made sure the paint was thoroughly dry also. Edited January 13, 2014 by Reelentless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 PVC doesn't need to be sealed. I believe that's why a lot of guys use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogAddict Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think Mark Paulson said he seals with superglue when he builds PVC baits. He said something about the PVC gassing off and creating bubbles on the "end grain." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hopefully he chimes in to clarify. I was under the impression people used PVC because it wouldn't take on water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 PVC doesn't need to be sealed.. It's impervious to water ..I think these guys "dip" just to have a smooth surface for paint..They will have to chime in on what they use...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogAddict Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'm in the middle of building a PVC frog and I love that I can tank test it right away. I know it's not as critical as a crank bait but I still want the frog to sit butt down in the water and when I'm building a frog to walk, it still has a keel that needs to sit correctly. I think I'm going to continue building with PVC although the PVC I bought at the big box store did have some voids that I had to fill with epoxy putty. I have to get some Azek soon I just haven't had time to run over to the local supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I do sometimes use superglue, because the bait is rough and I don't want to take the time to sand and fill. The superglue does keep the PVC from bubbling up the paint when it gets too hot. I try to dry the paint without overheating it. But usually I just paint directly over the PVC. If I sand it smooth enough, and use a Createx opaque white as a base coat, it paints up fine. Several thin coats dry well and fast. Once the top coat goes on, in my case Solarez, the whole bait is smooth, anyway, and any imperfections are hard to see. I am going to upload some pics. of my attempt at a hard frog in the Hard Baits Gallery. The magnetic hook holders work. I cast it a dozen times and the hooks stayed pinned to the magnets, and I didn't get bit, so I don't know how it will be for hookups. But the hooks pop up easily, and seem to have good clearance for the hook set. Fingers crossed. I'm painting it today. Edited January 13, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Mark, If you wanted to put your picture up on the "Frog post" that is fine...Nathan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Mark, If you wanted to put your picture up on the "Frog post" that is fine...Nathan Nathan, I just put in up in the hard baits. You can move it if you want to, but it is definitely a hard bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I wouldn't even bother sealing it. PVC won't rot when water gets to it. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 PVC doesn't need a seal coat to prevent water absorption but the few expanded PVC baits I've finished had tiny air holes in the PVC that, when heated, would expand and bubble the finish. So I would coat it with SOMETHING to prevent that. Admittedly it's only an esthetic problem, but still... and I don't know what the best product would be for that since I don't usually make PVC baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I've had the same experience, Bob, and also use either super glue or epoxy to smooth and seal sometimes. I smear the superglue or epoxy that I use to seat my bills over the bait to seal it. But mostly I don't. I try not to heat it too hot, and it's fine. Did I mention I'm lazy? Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 We already knew that, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Did I mention I'm lazy? Hahaha I think that's #1 on the list of Top Ten Things to Know About Mark. Ben Edited January 17, 2014 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It's nice to be loved. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
