Jaw Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Has anyone used uv cured epoxy (with all the experience here I'm sure you have) and where can I find it and what do you suggest to cute it with other than a tanning bed just a small uv lamp always appreciate help didn't get results from the search of old posts thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Have not used it, but as far as curing all you would have to do is expose it to sunlight. Even on cloudy days there is more than enough UV that gets through the clouds to start the curing process. Is Solarez a UV epoxy resin? If so then there are pages and pages of info about it. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Here's the Solarez website, so you can check and see if it's what you want: http://www.solarez.com/productsnew/gloss.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinman13 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Is solarez and gst both moisture cure urethanes? Do they have the same storage issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't think there is a "UV cured epoxy". Epoxy is a resin and hardener mixture that cures via a chemical reaction of the components, so I don't see a place for UV cure in that product. There is epoxy with UV filter, and additive that is supposed to protect the epoxy from yellowing after it is cured. The only UV cured finish I know of is UV cured polyester resin, of which Solarez is one example. You can cure it with various UV sources as long as they emit the correct wave lengths of UV, including a nail UV light which cures it in a few minutes, or just setting it out in the sunshine for awhile. Solarez comes in a black plastic jug. As long as it is not left open and exposed to strong UV light, there are no storage issues that I'm aware of. Dick Nite S81 is a moisture cured urethane. There are several MCU brands sold as floor finishes. I've tried several and they all have storage issues. Dick Nite brands works best and stores better than the others (hard to believe huh? everything is relative!) GST and other concrete finishes - I haven't heard about any storage issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 That's what I first thought Bob, but I did a search for "uv cured epoxy" and there were a bunch of hits on the web. I'll admit I didn't go any further than the search so wasn't exactly sure what was considered a "uv cured epoxy. That's why I wasn't sure if solarez was considered an epoxy resin. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Actually there are many types of UV epoxies. Bob is correct in that there is a chemical reaction between 2 or more chemicals. In the case of UV epoxies one or more of the chemicals will not react with the other chemical(s) until UV is applied. I am no expert but after reading this post I decided to do a little research. I also found out there are way more types of epoxies out there that I had no idea about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaw Posted January 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thanks for the feedback I recently watched a video where Larry dallburg clear coated jerk baits with uv cured epoxy on an allumalite site it doesn't require rotating the bait as the finish is thinner but you can redip the bait for thicker finishes he didn't give a manufacturer name and I'm not familiar with the product but it looked promising I'm new to the site but I have read a lot of the back post and have seen solarez mentioned a lot I will have to check out the product if you guys recommend it I have used the Devon product a lot (wish I would have found this site before using the 5 min epoxy yellowed after awhile but I did get pretty quick at it) and I've used famawood but not a big fan I have heard of the dicknite product but haven't ordered any tried to order some graco moisture cure today but couldn't get the clear version so I'm looking for another vendor seems like there are mixed emotions on mc because of the storage issues I think they were using a tanning bed to cure the uv for speed not required thanks again for the info I will let everyone know if I experiment with it once I figure out which one to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I stand corrected - but those UV cured epoxies I've found on the internet are SUPER EXPENSIVE. Has anyone found a source that sells the stuff in 8 oz bottles for around 20 bucks? If so, I'm interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaw Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 What is gst ? Do you guys prefer solarez or dick nite 81 I don't have any experience with either have just used deacon since I started this hobby turned winter time obsession a few years ago wish I would have found this site then but I've learned a lot through trial and error and more error thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 GST is a concrete sealer. Top coats are probably the most talked about subject here on TU. They all seem to have their pros and cons. Try the search engine, do a little reading and see which is a good fit for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Topcoats boil down to personal preference, based on experience and likes/dislikes. Dick Nite S81 is glossy, very thin, very tough stuff that looks and performs great on plastic crankbaits, like a factory finish. But it's solvents are touchy and it's very prone to harden during storage unless handled just right. Fairly expensive. Solarez is a fairly new option. It has a medium thickness and it will cure hard under UV light in a few minutes. Fairly inexpensive. No reported storage issues. If applied incorrectly, you can get a white blush that is apparent over dark paint. You can get a good topcoat with any of the options IF you learn the ins-and-outs of application, cure, and storage. Like barr5150 sez, read up before taking the plunge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaw Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Thanks I have read about dicknite product in the past but have been hesitant to order it solarez looks like my next purchase have been looking into it last few nights I just didn't know what gst stood for thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inrll Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 If you do end up with any of the white haze it can easily be polished out with a grinder/polishing wheel. I use Solarez and hit every lure with the polishing wheel for a super glossy (for Solarez) finish. It only takes about 30 seconds to a minute per lure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've been using Solarez for a year now, and finally saw the white haze you're talking about, on a black frog paint job I just did. The haze may only show up on dark paint, and this happens to be the first time I noticed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
