ChilliSpoons Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I just receives my order of GloNation unpigmented glow paint. I was hoping that it was a product that I could apply using my airbrush but the product is thick like hand cream. I tried applying it using a paintbrush but it didn't seem to level out very well. Does anyone use this stuff and are there any tricks to applying it smoothly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I use white Glonation paint on jigging spoons and have put it on a rattle bait or two. It's a catch-22 deal. It's way too thick and grainy for an airbrush. On the other hand, glow paint light output is determined by the number and size of the grains, and this stuff puts out enough light to read a newspaper in complete darkness - so I'm willing to forgo the esthetics. After a white color base coat, I brush it on as gently and evenly as possible with a flat artist's brush in 4 as-heavy-as-possible coats. It will never self-level but multiple coats equalize the thickness and when dried, it comes out fairly nice. I use Dick Nite or Solarez to topcoat. It's a product more appropriate to home brew lures than commercial spoon painting but I seriously doubt you'll find an airbrush applied glow paint that will put out the amount of light that Glonation does, and its strong glow catches lots of fish for me when I use it on jigging spoons in deep water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks for the tip. I'll try the multiple coats and maybe give it a light sanding prior to finishing with a concrete sealer. The Glonation product definitely glow as advertised, it'll be fun to see how the fish react to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguy Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 It puts out enough light to read a newspaper in complete darkness? Wow, you put it on a crankbait and that would be like cranking down a sealed beam headlight under water. LOL Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'll be applying the glow paint to trolling spoons and plugs. Glow green and glow blue will be the test colors flying on each side of the boat. It should be fun to compare the results. I'll let the Salmon decide which color becomes the real meal ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajay920 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I saw some jelly fish that glowed green when I was in the Caribbean. Other fish would not go near them! Ran them all off actually, I had to leave the spot because nothing was biting then. I guess the knew better. Not sure if that makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) The Glonation paint I used says it's white but it's actually greenish white. Different glow colors glow for different periods of time and the white is supposed to glow the longest, for around 12 hours. The Glonation website lists the glow duration of various colors. I chose white for the duration and because it best matches the color of shad which is the main forage species around here in the winter. kajay, a lot of greensih white glow lures are used in saltwater, so I don't think the color was the thing that was off-putting to your fish. Maybe the stinging tentacles? Don't know how well it will sand - it seems sort of rubbery when dried in a thick coat on my spoons, and only the Dick Nite made it hard and slick. The glow paint was a revelation to me when I tried it on jigging spoons. Fishing in a crowd over largemouth bass 55 ft deep, I caught fish on every drop while others were just hauling water. I've also used it to catch white bass and land locked striped bass, so to me its usefulness is CONFIRMED. Salmon? Have no idea! Edited January 26, 2014 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I just received my order from GloNation aswell...I orderd the unpigmented Wht/grn color to make glowing eyes on my new Black Rodent I'm making...talking about bright creepy eyes!!!...Nathan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanderLaan Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Never usd the stuff, but what about putting their powder in something like epoxy, lacquer or add it to air brush paint and then apply multiple coats? Would that address the uneven coating issue while still allowing the accumulation of GITD particles? Just thinking out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 The website doesn't say what size the powder particles are. If you add glow powder to a clearcoat, it would surely level out much better than the Glonation paint, which has a gel viscosity. But you'd probably still have to brush it on. I haven't tried the powder so can't really comment on its glow. If you add glow particles to a color acrylic paint, you mask most of the grains and inhibit them from charging. Using Glonation is a compromise, but so it using an airbrush glow paint. I have factory painted glow spoons and their glow is very subtle compared to Glonation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I'm not sure what the best way will be to apply these products but that's part of the fun trying to figure it out. I'm a little surprised by the viscosity of the glow paint, it definitely adds to the challenge. I did order 1 ounce of glow powder that is meant to be mixed with a clear but I'm not sure how or when I'll use it. I like the idea of creating some freaky glow in the dark eyes. Scaring the fish into biting is a technique I have yet to attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 That's just great! Another "must try"! Hahaha Bob, are you using their green glo paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Mark, I got the white paint. Shows white in sunlight, white/greenish tint in the dark. The website looks like its having some design problems displaying all of their products correctly. BTW, they suggest mixing powder with an auto clearcoat and spraying it in multiple coats with an HVLP gun, over a white basecoat to glow a bicycle - same should work on a spoon. Edited January 26, 2014 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Thanks Bob. I couldn't find the white on their site, but I'll email them to order some. I saw that about the glow powder and auto clear. That's a great idea for bikes, and spoons/blades. I don't fish where there are walleyes and pike, but I bet adding Glonation eyes to a walleye crankbait would make those eyes pop. Edited January 27, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 This is some pretty slick stuff..but it does have the consistancy of thick hand cream.The eyes I painted were very small so I just dipped them....Thanks for the tip on this paint BobP...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 The unpigmented glow paint that I bought is pretty much transparent, It goes on white but is virtually clear but dulls the colors underneath. The plugs that I'm painting with the glow will be white with some scale accents on the back and a strip of color down each side. I'm wondering if I should apply the glow after the white base then add the accents or top coat with the glow before clear. I'm using a concrete sealer as my finishing coat. I'm leaning towards adding the accents after to keep the colors brights and allow the glow to shine through the scales. Any thoughts? And BobP you were correct about sanding this stuff, it doesn't sand very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 The fine folks at GloNation tell me that the paint can be thinner using 10% Water or Acrylic Thinner which should help with smoothing out some of the brush marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 The Glonation paint comes in a gel so it can hold the heavier glow grains in suspension. You need to be careful thinning lest the grains begin to fall to the bottom of the container or clump together and clog your airbrush. It's not a product with elegant solutions to its limitations but I like the stuff because it glows like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I just bought some to try on deep crank eyes and jig heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I found something that might interest those of yuou who are looking for ways to add "glow" to their lures. It's a tape that glows for 10 to 12 hours in certain colors. It might be an easy way to add glow to your spoons and blades. Ben http://www.identi-tape.com/photolum-tape.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Never usd the stuff, but what about putting their powder in something like epoxy, lacquer or add it to air brush paint and then apply multiple coats? Would that address the uneven coating issue while still allowing the accumulation of GITD particles? Just thinking out loud. I've put glonation powder pigment in both clear and white powder paint and it works excellent. I dip large saltwater lures. I'm sure if you dip them at the right low temperature you could get an even coat. I can try doing a few spoons if you want to message me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 For Spoons I like using GITD powder coats. It doesn't glow anything like the GloNation products but it's really durable and makes a nice base coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 If you powder coast your spoons i would get glow nations dry powder and add it to a clear powder paint. A white base coast then clear with glow comes out real nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Where do you find the clear powder paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I haven't used their paint, but I found this and thought it might be useful: http://www.glonation.com/airbrushing-instruction.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...