RayburnGuy Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 My pleasure Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da big tuna Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thanks Ben, Gets more interesting all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I paint quite a few blank spoons and have very few problems with wrinkling but I'm still new at this game and learning. To prep my spoon blanks I soak my spoons in vinegar and then wet sand them with the same vinegar. I'm told, which may be BS, that the acidity of the vinegar helps to etch the spoon blank. I then rinse the blanks thoroughly and wipe them down prior to painting with Isopropyl Alcohol. This seems to work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 You may be onto something ChiliSpoons. Vinegar is a mild acid. Might be worth a try before you went out and bought etching primer or adhesion promoter Da big tuna. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 A mild vinegar/water solution kills quagga mussel larvae in you bilge and livewell, too. And it removes water scales from your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 A little white vinegar in the water you dip your water slide decals in makes them softer and lay better too!!...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassguy Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 A mild vinegar/water solution kills quagga mussel larvae in you bilge and livewell, too. And it removes water scales from your boat. And you can use vinegar as a weed killer too! Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 It is no BS...vinegar does etch metal surfaces. We had copper gutters installed about a dozen years ago. My wife loved the color of the new copper, but, once the patina process set in...she hated it. So, I ended up painting that expensive guttering. Wiped it down with vinegar, primed and painted and it looks the same now as it did 4 years ago. Btw, apple cider vinegar is good for what ails ya. I do not believe that adhesion of the paint to the surface has anything to do with the problem described by the OP. IMO, the possibilities have already been suggested.... a) the paint is not completely dry the top coat is being applied too heavily I see the problem as one of the two....or, both. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da big tuna Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Wow , Checking back in and lots of progress. I stopped using the krylon and that has stopped my issue for what ever the reason. I thought about baking soda and lime juice etching mix as well. Still messing with things but I think I got it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Glad you got it figured out. Sometimes we have to experiment to find a process that works or find the weak link that is causing the problem. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetlegger Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 sounds to me like urgettin in to big a hurry...do thin coats allow the proper cure time between coats....sounds like all u really need to do is just slow down abit lol...and u should thin it properly to so u can get the best performance out of the paint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnie3035 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 U-Pol #1 Clear works well for heat set blades and won't mess with your WB paint. However it isn't as good as dipping in DN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChilliSpoons Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 When it comes to rattle can clears I found that most provide a fairly nice finish but lack any kind of durability. It's a shame to spend all that time making a nice product just to have the first fish chew the crap out of your paint job. I've moved on to a concrete sealer until I find something that competes regarding ease, price and durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskandy Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I didnt' read all the posts but got trough most of them and didn't see this posted. I had the same problem and got it solved doing 2 things... like stated in several posts.. thick base coats are usually the culprit for this... if u know u have a thick base coat wait overnight to dry and clear the next day... and the second one really helped me i think. Createx has a clear gloss coat.. Apply that before u do your actual clear and let dry like normal.. IT HAS BEEN A LIFE SAVER when using createx! hope this helps! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da big tuna Posted April 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'd like to check back in and let you know my progress and what all went wrong and what went right. The good news is I got it down to a science now with the help of you all. The biggest culprit for me was not letting my paint dry enough between coats. I also switched my clear to Dick Nite. I was too eager to get to step number 7 with out doing 2-6 properly . I will tell you as you can see from my last post it didn't happen over night. LOts of testing but a BIG thanks to all who responded here and helped me win... for now... I know its only one victory but a guy can celebrate right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) I'd like to check back in and let you know my progress and what all went wrong and what went right. The good news is I got it down to a science now with the help of you all. The biggest culprit for me was not letting my paint dry enough between coats. I also switched my clear to Dick Nite. I was too eager to get to step number 7 with out doing 2-6 properly . I will tell you as you can see from my last post it didn't happen over night. LOts of testing but a BIG thanks to all who responded here and helped me win... for now... I know its only one victory but a guy can celebrate right? Congrats on your "victory". Glad to hear you've got things going your way. Ben Edited April 12, 2014 by RayburnGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieb8 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 I sent you a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdown Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hey guys new to TU but have gotten some great info from you guys and wanted to say thank you. Ok heres my problem. Createx painted crankbaits and then dipped in GST as top clearcoat. Paint started to wrinkle immediately. Im new to painting crankbaits so my paint may have been to thick??? The baits were allowed to dry a few days as ive been busy doin other things and didnt get around to clearcoating them till this morning. I did 3 baits, 2 of which were untextured bodies and 1 was a textured body. The textured bait did not wrinkle at all while the 2 untextured baits wrinkled immediately after pulling out of GST. Im hoping I just painted to thick although they didnt look to thick. I just let the baits air dry in the room that they were painted in which is a spare bedroom, so air temp and/humidity werent a factor. Please help me out guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedyarb Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Probably too thick on the coats, and are you heat setting the paint after every coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdown Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 Im only heat seating with a hair dryer. Maybe not long enough??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
