socal cranker Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Who made these and what is the model name? Any help is welcome. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 You always come up with some interesting balsa's. Is that top one a tuffy by chance? No idea on the bottom one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinman13 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I almost wanna say Bagley or Poe's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemmy Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 They look like Suddeths to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawghunters Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Look like poes to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I can tell what they aren't. As Clemmy mentioned the bottom looks to be a Suddeth. The top I don't know, figure could be from an individual possible. It doesn't appear to be any of the usual niche crankbait makers that I can think of currently. Probably one or two I forgot however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt M Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 You can try looking up Dr. Todd Larson. He knows more about antique fishing tackle than any one person should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 The top bait looks like a Little Petey crankbait. There are several Tennessee builders that sell baits that look like it, some with similar names, so it's impossible to be sure unless you can identify it by the color scheme details. Flat Shads by Sonny McFarland, Tennessee Tuffy baits build one similar, or check the following: http://www.safetyexpressusa.com/index.html Quote: The Original “Little Petey�? was made famous bytournament fisherman on the lakes and rivers of East Tennessee. Fishingtournaments have been won with The Original “Little Petey�? on WattsBar, Fort Loudon, Tellico, Chickamauga, Cherokee, Douglas, Norris andMelton Hill Lakes and the Tennessee, Clinch, Emory and Holston Rivers.For over 45 years Pete Reynolds and his son Tony have been hand craftingthe balsa wood flat sided crank bait in Rockwood, Tennessee. Duringthis time The Original “Little Petey�? has been tournament tested andproven all across the country. From Vermont to Washington State to Texasto Virginia and all over the South East the success of The Original“Little Petey�? has become legendary. That is why The Original “Little Petey�? has been copied by so many but never duplicated! The second bait I've seen before but can't remember where. Both may have been made by the same shop because of the similarities in the paint schemes. It does resemble a Suddeth design but it looks like a wood bait to me and the Suddeths I've seen (and bought) were made from expanded foam by a small shop in Georgia that was sold sometime back. Don't know if they're still being sold by the new owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ralph and Irving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Times two with Mark Poulson. The top bait looks like a local WNC lure called the Carolina Killer. They also sold out years ago. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SureShot Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 They look Japanese to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not Japanese for sure. I am leaning toward TN, NC, or SC baits. I would love to find out more about these. Thanx guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The top lure does look like a Little Petey. However, it is my understanding that the originals have not been made in decades but I cannot be certain. I am just leary of anyone claiming to be selling original peteys. If you like the peteys then I would go to the Old Petey at Nomad lures. I know the owner. He tried to locate originals for a long time. He finally found some and went down to S.C. to buy some from an estate sale about 14 yrs. ago if I remember right. He paid a lot of money for them. He is the best I have ever seen at mapping something out. Plus, he is an outstanding craftsman. The Nomad Old Petey is the real deal. Trust me. He has a web site. Send him an email and ask him about the original Little Petey. He knows the rundown. SO MANY people have made that style of lure in TN, GA, and the Carolinas that it would be really hard to tell who made that lure. The bottom one does look like a Suddeth. As far as I know Suddeth is not made anymore either. Suddeth was bought out around 2008. The new owner tried to make them but realized just how much work it is to produce baits for the masses. The smaller ones were made in GA. and they were made out of foam. Coley (on this site) had some and cut them up so we could see how they were made. The problem with foam plugs is that after they get old the foam starts to deteriorate. They just turn to dust in spots. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Off topic question. Skeeter, have you tried coating the foam with super glue before painting to make it last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I have one Suddeth foam bait left from years ago. I liked them and they had some unique designs that caught fish. Suddeth would ask whether you wanted the bait to float, suspend, or sink when you ordered one. The negative aspect was if you decided to repaint one, you had to deal with the many air voids in the surface of the foam if you decided to take the original finish off. I agree that Blackjack at Nomad baits turns out a superior crankbait. Don't know whether Nomad is currently active. I visited the site and it appears to have been inactive for quite awhile. Social Cranker, know all this has not definitively answered your question but if Skeeter doesn't know, probably no one does! Edited March 17, 2014 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thank you guys. I did have a few of Blackjack's Ol Peteys, but have since traded them to a friend. I had contact with him early this year and ordered some other models, but have not had contact with him for a while. Sorry, the camera angle does show the best profile of the baits. I will try and get some better pics. They are definitely not a little Petey. They are not as "tall" Both of these are balsa thru-wire cranks. Neither the Little Petey or Blackjacks are thru-wire. I thank all you guys for any help! The mystery continues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Mark, No sir I have not. What I have done is Devcon a BII body before I paint it so that the lure is sealed and will last a long time. I apply it just like I was clearcoating the lure. It works just beautifully. I shoot lacquer paint so it sticks to the Devcon just fine. You don't even have to scuff it. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Mark, No sir I have not. What I have done is Devcon a BII body before I paint it so that the lure is sealed and will last a long time. I apply it just like I was clearcoating the lure. It works just beautifully. I shoot lacquer paint so it sticks to the Devcon just fine. You don't even have to scuff it. Skeeter Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 here are a few more pics. thnx again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SureShot Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Long and skinny... Maybe Japanese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah JV Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Japanese or a garage lure(?) I used to own a crank that said " teeny Sammy" that I got from my dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Carolina killer, I have a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal cranker Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Unlike any Carolina Killer I have. I think it is from that area though. Can you post a similar Carolina Killer? That would be very helpful. I know there have been a few people build in the history of the Carolia Killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Maybe a bandit. I have a similar flat side crank that I tried to find out the ID of. Turns out it was a bandit. Not the modern plastic ones but it's predecessor. I'll see if I can find a pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverGLX Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Found them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
