m.t.pockets Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 give them a call 1-800-521-0731 Great people to deal with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Prager Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Most vendors that sell blanks sell their eyes for about 3.25 per 100...that's quite a bit less than WTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.t.pockets Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) That $3.25 price is probably for imported flat stick on eyes, not 3 color 3-d soft molded eyes made by wtp Edited March 17, 2014 by m.t.pockets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 That $3.25 price is probably for imported flat stick on eyes, not 3 color 3-d soft molded eyes made by wtp The price is for 3D eyes. A simple look at their websites will let you know. Here is just one of many http://www.unpaintedlures.com/programs/shop/browse.cgi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I stick the eyes on the before I epoxy I use a hair dryer on them softens the eye and the glue also and press firmly. No proplems. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks Wayne I will give that a try. I'm going to put a sheet of eyes on a hot plate and see if that will work. If it does work then I can skip gluing altogether and still have the freedom to use whatever eyes I want. It will have to wait a while as I am very busy with plastics for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1976 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks, yes I spoke to Jackie. You need a business or resell license and the price she gave me was pre shipping. Again wtp eyes are the best. I ended up just getting every thing I needed from them. Where did you get the quote of 1000 WTP for $55 ?? give them a call 1-800-521-0731 Great people to deal with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Ok here is the scoop guys. I had a buddy come over this morning with some soft 3D eyes and we did some testing. We used a 1 inch pvc pipe to glue the eyes on. The one inch offered enough roundness so that we could try to get them to slide. All the eyes we used were 6mm. We airbrushed 1/4 black circles onto the pipe so we could see how much they slid. We started with 3 brands of regular super glue: dollar store brand, loctite professional, and gorilla glue. Unfortunately they all slid. I am assuming it is because you have no control over the amount of glue you can put on. The gorilla glue was the worst. I will also note that all the eyes had the infamous white haze on them, some worse than others but it was not noticeable after epoxying unless you touched the eye. When we epoxied we could clearly see a finger print on one of the eyes that had been touched with the white haze. We used two brands of super glue gel: dollar store brand and loctite professional gel. I put the eyes on the way I normally do it, with a toothpick. On the hard and soft eyes, none of them slid. We then put the eyes on by putting glue on straight from the tube. We did three eyes each of the hard and soft. The all slid a little except 1 soft one. We decided the problem isn't the eyes but the amount of glue being put on. Super glue gel takes a minute to set up so if you use to much it will slid until it dries. There was no white hazing on the eyes from the gel. We then epoxied all the eyes onto the pvc pipe with D2T and we had no cloudiness with any of the glues. We then did 2 eyes each with the loctite gel and loctite regular super glue and then epoxied over them before they were dry. That is when I got to experience the sliding around that was talked about and yes that sucks. They all had a little bit of cloudiness. We only gave the epoxy 45 minutes of cure time before we called it quits. I know this is lengthy but I had to know why everyone wasn't getting the same results. Thanks for the testing, and posting the results. It seems like most of our lure making troubles come from trapped moisture or solvent, because we didn't wait long enough to let stuff dry completely, or offgas, before we top coated. So we are our own worst enemies. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Thanks, yes I spoke to Jackie. You need a business or resell license and the price she gave me was pre shipping. Again wtp eyes are the best. I ended up just getting every thing I needed from them. I kind of figured that as I called them back in January and they told me they don't have bulk pricing for the public, but it doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonfishn Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Cad, do you mean Witchcraft Tape Products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Cad, do you mean Witchcraft Tape Products? Sorry about the typo. You are correct. Here is the link. http://www.shopwtp-inc.com/index.php?osCsid=83ccf2222ab1306fcf1a2a83cce92863 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBarlow Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 To show that I am not just saying it here are some pics of baits I have been working on for the last week. I just tank tested them today. You will notice there is no cloudiness around the eyes at all. Even if you mess up and get super glue gel on the outside of the eye it won't show up after you clear coat the lure. cranks.JPG cranks2.JPG cranks3.JPG Those are some nice looking baits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Those are some nice looking baits. Thanks for the compliment. Those are just blanks I bought and painted. I am much farther along now as I make all my own blanks and now have 100% control over the quality. All my baits are made from resin and are solid. I use lexan for the bills because you can't break them especially in cold weather. All my baits have a thru-wire construction and they get no less than 3 coats of etex. In other words these baits will be around long after I am gone. If you manage to get the clear coat off, which can happen if you are fishing for toothy fish, you can simply repaint because the bait will be fine. Again thanks for the compliment and I hope in the next few months I will be able to show off the many new body styles we have created. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Bass100 - great testing (post No22). The fingerprint haze observation was interesting. The FBI use CA glue vapours in the same way, to make fingerprints visible. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
