Mooki Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hi, Bought a couple of molds recently that have me slightly confused. When I saw them I knew what I could do with them, but I'd of course also like to know what they are actually intended for - unfortunately I haven't managed to find any information about them what so ever. Reckoned someone on this board might know what they are. Hilts molds, models SBTJM-18, SBTJM-14, SBTJM-38, LMSJ LMSJ looks sort of like a slip sinker (which I was going to use it for), but the type designation would indicate a Spin Jig of some sort, also the collar beckons me to tie some bucktail or similar around it. SBTJM I was thinking bottom bouncers, but I get the feeling that they might be able to do something else. So, if anyone has an idea, or even pics of the finished product to show what can be done, I'd be much obliged. Regards. //M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 1st 3 sure looks like spinner bait molds to me. That is the hook size listed on the mold. The last one could be a punching weight but do you have the insert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 The SBTJM molds look as if you could make slip sinkers as well as bottom bouncers but the LMSJ is a spinnerbait mold, the safety pin type used primarily for bass fishing, if you look in the gallery section of this site under "spinnerbaits" you see safety pin type spinnerbaits that the mold you have will make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooki Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Thanks for your replies, I think you just helped me see what was in plain sight I noticed I probably looked at the SBTJM the wrong way - I was thinking the hook went where the long part of the shank is (because it looks more stream lined that way). Now that I look again I can see that with the hook towards the handle it would indeed be possible to cast a Spinner Bait. As there are hook sizes stamped on these molds this would seem the most logical conclusion. I've actually never heard of a punching weight, but a quick google turns up that this seems a likely candidate, found a couple with skirt keepers which are very similar. Unfortunately no inserts were provided with the LMSJ, but a quick dig through my junk drawer should provide me with something fitting. The thing about the LMSJ is that there is a text on the mold "Oil Cores" - which had me believe that one should use inserts and remove these after casting, although I can't foresee any difficulties making spinner baits either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Yeah often that's the recomended suggestion to oil the wire core, I'm no sure as I don't own one but see if the do-it mold wire core will fit your mold I'm sure someone can tell you the diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 The last one makes worm slip weights you can put skirts on or tie material to . Makes a good inline musky bait . Even a straight line buzz bait with a swivel hook or treble on it . The others have been used for bottom bouncers, lure bodies , ect. Pretty versatile bunch you got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2long Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Drop out mold release will work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Wire cores are easy to make. Just go to your local welding store and buy a stick of TIG welding wire. One stick should make several of them as they come in three foot sticks in a whole host of diameters. Bring your mold and find the wire that fits it. Drill a matching hole in a dowel rod or a stick and epoxy it in or drill straight through and bend a small L in the wire. You could even just bend the wire into an L shape without the handle. I know I can buy tig wire locally by the stick for $0.50 each so if you have a piece of scrap dowel or a round stick you should have less than $1 invested. Way cheaper tha a Do-It wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I use cutting oil on my inserts. It is cheap and doesn't burn. Put a little bit on a paper towel and wipe it on your insert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROWINGADUBAY Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 On the first three it looks like you could open up a notch in the mold to allow a hook to be place in the mold to make a tube jig. The last mold you have there is a slip jig I have the Do It version of it Ii think it is th most vesatile bait/sinker/mold out there you can do all kind of stuff with them. I lost or broke my pull pin and went to ACE hard ware and bought a pack of 1/16" brass rod to use as a pull pin 1.I clip the collar off to use as an almost exact copy of a martin panther 2.I pour the 1/8 with a wire and hook for a crappie spinnerbait it looks like you can do that to all your cavities 3. I use them as inline spinner bodies 4. like you said bottom bouncers don't be afraid to pour more than one on a wire to make heavier bouncers 5. they make a great swim jig with a piece of wire and a piece of shrink tube to hold the hook up. 6. you can make a chatterbait the same as the swim jig just add a blade 7 .you can use it as it is meant with a skirt 8. slip sinker 9.drop shot wieght If you have any more please post them or pm me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I use Ace Hardware's thread cutting oil. That one bottle will last me the rest of my days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooki Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Thanks to everyone for all great tips and info. Gee, with the versatility of these mold the only question is - what the heck am I gonna do with all those other molds I have lying around Almost like a Swiss army knife of molds, these seem to be. Once again - loads of thanks, now I better go scramble up some inserts and start casting before the weather turns too good... @ROWINGADUBAY No more mystery molds I'm afraid, the rest are just standard molds but these caught my fancy when I saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdog Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Only cutting oil I keep on hand anymore is TapMagic for all metals formula. Its not expensive for a drop or two, but I wouldn't call it cheap. Since I've gone to water soluble cutting coolant/lubricant on my CNC machines I haven't kept any other oils on hand. I I do have a dropper can of the stuff that is toxic for really hard cuts in tool steel on the lathe, but I am hoarding it because when its gone there won't be any more. Hoard that tap magic! It was one of he best products ever made to tapping aluminum. I know its hazzardous but I got the last gallon from our shop when we finally had to stop using it. I do not use it very often and have a life time supply but when you need it, its priceless. My last use was tapping 25 2-56 thru holes in a 3/8" thick aluminum plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 On the "Pull Out Rod" which you use the same for egg sinkers. An older coustomer of mine poured tons of egg sinkers .. he had a bar of soap next to him and as he pulled the rod out of the mold he would "drag" the rod across the bar of soap .. it is the easiest and cheapest release I have seen ... works good have used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Never had a taper I can remember in my pull rods . Leave it to JSC to jog my memory . Forgot about the soap . Liquid letchien is cheap and works well . If i'm not mistaken Pam has letchien in it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSC Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Like TF -- Never had a tapered rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
