Painter1 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 This requires a "foundation" coat that is applied to a a heated jig and baked for 10 minutes. Then the next color goes on and is baked. I tried it last night and the foundation coat looks great. It separates into black & silver spots. But the top color completely covers the foundation. Even where I managed to get the top coat on very thinly, it looks NOTHING like the picture. I intend to contact them about this and see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBarlow Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Sounds to me like you are putting the coats on in reverse order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaw Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have used the chrome and red and blue powder paint they have I just apply the base and immediately apply the color I want to show in the break up don't put it on to thick just a quick swirl you will have to experiment with what works best for you then bake the jig works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlarson64 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 are you using a fluid bed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Sounds to me like you are putting the coats on in reverse order. Not according to instructions. Base coat, then the "candy" color. I will experiment some more, but wanted to share my experience with the product. I like some of their other colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 What size head are you doing this too? I've done it using Columbia coatings silver vein with candy blue over top and I found that anything under 1/4oz is tough as the color ends up very dark and the easiest way is to dip in your base and then use the brush and tap method to apply the candy color. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaw Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Have done some 1/4oz but usually 3/8 and 1/2oz nothing smaller never tried 1/8 or 1/16 before did a lot of bass swim jigs and old arkie jigs last time been about 6 months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Probably getting too much of a coat on it, do you have an air powder gun? Might be the answer? try using some silver vein paint from columbia etc, will work out a lot cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I did finally get the purple on very thin on the 1/2 oz FB jigs and see some effect. But the result is not what I could call satisfactory. The base color works well for swim heads, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I contacted them to get clear instructions (they really need to post better instructions!!!)..and followed them exactly... and I was not able to get satisfactory results either. No matter how I tried...the 2nd coat covered more than I wanted it to. I really like using the base coat on my jigs that I use imitate shad or crappies. A word of warning they had on the base coat was to treat it VERY gently so you don't break up the conglomerates of color/black that make the effect. Just stir it very gently with a wood stir stick. Don't use a fluid bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAWJigs Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 never had a problem with it ... I would bake it, let it cool off, then I would heat it the jig, a few seconds and get a good light coat on, let it cool and do it until i got it where i wanted ... then i got tired of doing that lmao ... took too long for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBearTackle Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 I just recently picked up some of this paint also & I am getting mixed results. Perhaps someone might have some advice as to how to get more consistent results. My first dip in the base coat came out perfectly. But after that, results were weak & inconsistent. Wondering if it's just the manner of how you dip it to get the proper effect? Such as dip it slow, or quick, give it a good swirl etc? Wondering also if maybe heat is an issue. My first dip was quite hot( I use a heat gun), it smoked after I dipped it. I have tried both with & without a fluid bed. Results were better without the bed, but still inconsistent. Any thoughts, tips or suggestions would be appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBarlow Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) You really cannot use this in a fluid bed. It does not work right because of the different densities of the 2 types of paint in the blend. Because of the 2 different densities you also need to mix it well before every use or they will settle out. Best I can say is keep trying. It is a very picky paint that takes lots of practice. Edited November 14, 2017 by JBarlow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBearTackle Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 8 hours ago, JBarlow said: You really cannot use this in a fluid bed. It does not work right because of the different densities of the 2 types of paint in the blend. Because of the 2 different densities you also need to mix it well before every use or they will settle out. Best I can say is keep trying. It is a very picky paint that takes lots of practice. JBarlow, thanks for the reply! Yes I agree, the fluid bed does not work well with this paint. For mixing, do you recommend mixing or stirring? & when it comes to dipping the head, do you have a preference? Slow or quick dip, straight in & out or give it a swirl etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBearTackle Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Unexpected Development.... So, after dipping them & setting them aside, most of them were showing very little speckle, they basically looked like plain gun metal with a little pepper. I put them in the oven to cure, for kicks, so I could play with a topcoat afterwards, and, the speckle showed up in full force upon baking. Is it the baking process that draws out the speckle effect? The more I think about it, it makes sense to me. My first dip came out great & the speckle showed up right away, but it was really hot (probably too hot, it was smoking after I dipped it). The rest were not that hot, & had less speckle. So I'm thinking that first one more or less baked right away & that's why the speckle showed up instantly, rather than after being baked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 YEs it appears as heat is applied. i run mine in a fluid bed, at very very low pressure with no problems. have old powder never had it settle out after 2/3 years I buy by the lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Have you tried cutting the candy color with clear? You can adjust the darkness of the paint to your liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...