bigbrown Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 when i put a real fish skin with fins on a super shad rap and fish with it there is no more action on it! its disapointing! does anybody have a solution to getting the action back and keeping the fins and skin? thanks alot, bigbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-bass-catcher Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Without seeing the actual bait, I'm only making guesses... You might have added too much bulk to the sides of the lure; make sure the skin is tight on the lure without a lot of clearcoat to add bulk to the sides. The fins may be prohibiting the water displacement from making the bait wiggle Those are my only two guesses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrown Posted July 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 thanks basscatcher, that is going to be my next thing i will do differently, im gonna put as little devcon as i can on the bait so it cant take away from the action on the bait, thanks again, bigbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 You might also try attaching the skin to a larger bait, from my experience smaller baits tend to be more squirly...touchy to changes in their shape. As I mentioned before, don't forget to consider using a photo finish on the bait. If you want scent, attach a small piece of velcro to the belly of the bait and fill it with your favorite attractant. You can also incorporate a piece of foam or yarn into the back of the hook and fill it with scent. Just some ideas! Have fun. Jed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrown Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 thanks riverman, those some good ideas, the bait is already a pretty big bait and it matches the size of the chubs in the lake perfectly, but thank you for the bigger bait idea maybe i will try it with a smaller chub so that the fins and tale dont catch as much water and less skin will take less away from the action, thanks again, bigbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Any action can be put back into a bait with lip design. Since you have changed the bait pretty radically you may have to change the design or the placement of the lip to get the action back. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrown Posted July 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 thanks skeeter, that is very true, but i do not know where to put the lip or if i need to make it bigger or smaller? do u have any tips for me on where to place the lip or if it needs to be bigger or smaller? i really would love for this experiment to work out, i am amazed at the way the bait looks after what i did to it, but how it looks doesnt matter unless i can get it to track right. thanks again skeeter, bigbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverMan Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Skeeter brings up a good point, use the search feature up top, literally hundreds of posts concerning lip design and size. RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The fastest way to increase action of a lure is to increase the angle of the lip. If the lip has a 5 degree drop from the center line of the lure, then try 10 degrees. You will not loose much in the line of depth the lure will obtain, but it will take longer for the lure to obtain its maximum depth. Keep droping the lip in 5 deg. intervals untill you get the action that you want. The other way would be to widen the current lip. Most Rapalas have a narrow lip. You could try a lip from a Poes 300 and see if that will do it for you. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...