SlowFISH Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Hey guys.... Picked up 2oz of Bear Chameleon. First time playing with it I had a hard time getting a "opaque" bait. I was doing a craw type bait and the claws were a very translucent purple and the body mostly purple with very little brown - which I didn't expect. The claws are thin - range from .06" to .1" in thickness and the body has a good 5/8" diameter through a good portion of it. Not sure if you need to use this stuff on baits with drastic or thick sectional changes or not. At one point i was up over 50 drops per 8oz. I shook the hell out of the colorant prior to use - and added a few steel balls in the bottle to help shake it up. It's possible I didn't shake/mix it enough, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Just curious for those that's used it - is this a colorant I need to add PRIOR to heating like a fluorescent?? Do I just need to shake the hell out of it even more??? Any tips would help. Thanks. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBHUFFY1 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Add some ground up salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Shake it really well and when you think you've shaken it enough just go ahead and shake it a little more. I have this colorant as well and it requires a lot of drops to get a darker color. The opacity your wanting can be achieved by adding salt like huffy suggested above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Add some ground up salt. Shake it really well and when you think you've shaken it enough just go ahead and shake it a little more. I have this colorant as well and it requires a lot of drops to get a darker color. The opacity your wanting can be achieved by adding salt like huffy suggested above. Thanks for the replies... it seemed like it needed alot of drops - I'll start by shaking the hell out of it - and then shaking the hell out of it again!!! Any other tips to making it a bit more opaque besides adding salt? I don't use salt in any of my baits - it's not a show stopper - but would be helpful to avoid if possible. I tried adding a little green pumpkin last time but that just killed any transition from purple to brown I did have - basically went brown with some very tiny purple highlights. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm not familiar with Bear's chameleon, but adding a drop or 2 of black should darken pretty much any color without effecting the color you're trying to achieve. The only time I had a problem with this is when the color was changeable or fluorescent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Bear's chameleon is a changeable color. Adding salt will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm not big on salt in baits either but sometimes adding salt is the best way to get certain colors. There is a swimbait belly color I could not nail and Frank did it for me by using salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear21211 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 It is not an opaque color!! Start with white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Only other option I could see to maybe try and get some opaqueness without adding salt would be a lot of chameleon colorant and adding a drop of white or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I think you would lose the color change if it were opaque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks for all the replies.... cooked up a cup tonight and tried a few different things... found I got the color/shade I was looking for by just really putting alot in the mix - wound up being about 40 drops in 4oz. I now understand from bears post above that this colorant isn't meant to make opaque baits... But with this ratio I have what appears as an "opaque brown" body with a nice purple translucent arms. The thick section of my bait is definitely letting light through as in a glass bowl of water over a white piece of paper the bait looks all purple - but put a different color piece of paper under the bowl and it starts going brown in the thick sections... if placed on a table - nice brown body and purple arms. Looks like a nice color - hopefully the fish will think so too!!! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...