mark poulson Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Have you guys seen this: http://www.bassfan.com/docktalk.asp?id=12022#12022 The engineering is slick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Yes it is an innovative design for a spinning reel. Would I be willing to futz with my reel to that extent between every cast to avoid line twist? Probably not. I'd lose track of whether the spool should be turned left or right and just screw it up. And when all is said and done, a little line twist on a spinning reel is not that big a deal to me. If I under-fill the spool by 1/8" and use KVD line conditioner, the 6lb fluorocarbon on my Shimano 2500 lasts all year. But it is an interesting reel design that might be attractive to guys who often stand in the boat cursing handfuls of spinning reel bird nests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 First thing that caught my eye was the exposed gear drive. Looks like it would catch a lot of dust to me. Liked the no twist design. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I agree Glenn, the exposed gears are a disaster waiting to happen. Dirt, damage, etc., it is a real problem. Still, a no twist design has some advantages and maybe later design versions will change that. Bob, I agree with you as well. Remembering if I turned the reel or not, or wondering if the reel would stand up to normal fishing abuse, is it worth it? I guess time will tell. I learned a long time ago that putting line on a spinning reel is what causes most of the line twist. Once you figure out how to load the reel, much of the problem is gone. IF you do get line twist, then the trick is to let the line out behind your boat without anything on it and let the friction of the water remove it. It takes maybe a minute or two, and I can handle that. The next thing that always causes twist on spinning reels is the line being pulled out under drag, and that is not that much twist each time. So, a couple more times each year I use the boat to remove the twist. Actually it is reeling the line while the drag is slipping that causes the twist, and there is no reason to reel against the drag in the first place. So, unless you don't have a boat, or perhaps a river bridge to feed line downstream with, then is there a real need for the design. I learned one additional thing some time ago. Sometimes I am reluctant to change if I don't see a need to. Even though in the long run it might be a good thing. Perhaps, in time, I will see that I should have taken this more seriously and tried it, but for now, I don't plan on fixing what is not broken. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 First thing that caught my eye was the exposed gear drive. Looks like it would catch a lot of dust to me. Liked the no twist design. Musky Glenn I saw that, too, but I figured it was open to show the gearing for the video. A neat way to redesign a spinning reel. Better, I don't know, but neat anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barr5150 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 No level wind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubs Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Reminds me of an Alvey side cast reel I used to have. Different, but the same pivot principle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/111403581803?lpid=82 bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazmail Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Plenty of lateral thinking there Mark, thanks for posting-- I'm just about to get a lathe delivered, maybe my first project ?? ----- O.K, I'm joking, I'm nowhere near that class. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybait Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Fascinating design. Even with the above mentioned concerns I think it is an engineering marvel. Remember this is first generation and look how many generations of conventional spinning reels we have gone thru. Have to wait and see if this design survives long enough for me to dig out some cash and try one. I just bought a CI4+ yesterday thou and it seems pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Looks awful expensive for my cheap A___ but is really cool looking. Have the same questions about it as everyone else. But the open gearing would be easy to wash out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 It's hard to tell from the video, but it seems there is no lubricant on the gears. (at least for these tired, old eyes) If they are running dry gears it might not be the "dirt magnet" it would seem to be and would be easily cleaned by blowing the dirt out. Not sure how long the gearing would last though. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Nice toy, great engineering but not ready for prime time just yet, personally might be worth buying just to see if it becomes a collectors item in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeee Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Not to mention a birds nest from hell. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diemai Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Very interesting reel technology , ..thanks for sharing , Mark . Greetz , Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New River Rat Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 All I can see is too many moving parts, and a large increase in weight, that equals a large loss of sensitivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
