timturr Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I just purchased the Do It Ultra Minnow Jig mold. I am planning on pouring 1/2 and 3/4 oz jigs. I would like to use a Mustad 32786 hook. According to Barlows this hook will work. My question is will this hook work and can I use a larger size hook such as a 4/0 and 5/0 respectively? I know these hooks are larger than what the mold calls for but I just have to try and tinker with everything. It is just more fun that way. Any suggestions, thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Most Do-it molds will take a size larger or smaller hook but being that the mold in question uses 2 different kind of hooks my guess is you wouldn't be able to up too much if at all. The good thing is that because the mold uses both 90 and 60 degree hooks, the 60 degree hooks will more than likely be positioned further back so you will have the length of a 4/0 90 degree hook while using a 3/0 60 degree model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timturr Posted July 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Thanks Smalljaw, I hadn't thought of it that way. On a Mustad 32786 hook, the distance between the eye of the hook and the bend gets a lot bigger each size you go up. I am sure that is where the bigger hooks will get into a bind with the mold. This is the first mold I have bought in a while. looking forward to working with something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBarlow Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 I just purchased the Do It Ultra Minnow Jig mold. I am planning on pouring 1/2 and 3/4 oz jigs. I would like to use a Mustad 32786 hook. According to Barlows this hook will work. My question is will this hook work and can I use a larger size hook such as a 4/0 and 5/0 respectively? I know these hooks are larger than what the mold calls for but I just have to try and tinker with everything. It is just more fun that way. Any suggestions, thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Tim The 4/0 and 5/0 will fit in the 1/2 and 3/4oz cavities but they do not fit right. I was able to close the mold with these sizes in it but they do not sit straight...see picture below. The top picture is with them sitting in the cavities. The bottom is so you can see how much you would have to modify the mold to get them to fit in straight. Hope this helps some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Tim if the 1st picture and statement is correct above, you can kink the hook shank near the leg by the eye, and the hook shank will pull away from the wall of the mold and collar, which will make it fit fine and pour perfectly. The only thing is you might be trapping air with the larger hook shank in the mold, so I would suggest filing out a little more space, where the hook shank sits by the mold collar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timturr Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thanks JBarlow for the pictures and explain. I received my mold and the hooks do set in there a little crooked but I think they will work. Once I tie the bucktail on there I don't think it will make any difference. Cadman you are absolutely correct about trapped air. On molds with collars I find it is hard to get them to pour completely so use a triangle file and make a small groove from the point of the collar to the outside of the mold. This allows the air to escape with minimal spru. Then I just hit it with a file when I am cleaning them up. This helps a lot with molds that are hard to get complete pours. Also I use a lot of mold release spray also to help with difficult pours. Thanks guys for all the help. I will try to post a picture when I get one complete. Sincerely, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntermiwi Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Hope you have your question answered - and I can add my question about Ultra Minnow Jig as well. I am interested in the SHR-3-L mold. The mold calls for Mustad 91715 in 8/0 size. I am hoping to use a Gami 604 and go down to 7/0 size. Anyone know if the Gami 604 would work (8/0 size?, 7/0 size?) JBarlow - a photo of a Gami 604 7/0 laying in the mold would be great! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBarlow Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Hope you have your question answered - and I can add my question about Ultra Minnow Jig as well. I am interested in the SHR-3-L mold. The mold calls for Mustad 91715 in 8/0 size. I am hoping to use a Gami 604 and go down to 7/0 size. Anyone know if the Gami 604 would work (8/0 size?, 7/0 size?) JBarlow - a photo of a Gami 604 7/0 laying in the mold would be great! Thanks! That is probably not going to work. The 604 7/0 is a much smaller hook and has a much smaller wire diameter. The mold has a post in the eye to hold the hook in place. The 604 eye will not fit around this post. This means you will have to remove the post. If you do this the hook will just fall out of position. Also, since the wire diameter is so much smaller you will have all sorts of lead leakage and flashing. In the picture the hook is sitting on top of the post in the eye. I do not have an 8/0 to try in the mold. You can also see how loose the hook fits in the mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) huntermiwi,You can make that mold work fine and flash if any will be minimal. I've yet to find a mold that I cannot make some small modification to make a hook fit with-in reason. As for your question about the mold and the hooks you want to use. File out the hook eye post on 1/2 of the mold. What this will do is position the hook on 1/2 of the mold, and when you close the mold, the other mold half with the post still intact will hold the hook eye in place. Now if it is still too loose, you can build up the hook eye opening with gold permatex silicone. It is the high temp. By doing this, it will also hold the hook in place. As far as flash goes, if you get flash below the jig collar, it is a matter of taking some side cutters and gently squeeze and rotate them, and the flash will fall off. If you are worried about lead filling in by the hook eye, you can fill both side with permatex high temp, let it cure, trim off any excess, and then start pouring. The nice thing about the permatex, is that you can easily peel it off when you're done. Many of us on here that sell jigs have to improvise, and there are a lot of guys on here that do that to make things happen. This small modification can be done by anyone this is not really complicated.The only negative thing I see about the hook in the end cavity, is that the hook is really too small for that cavity. The hook bend is too close to the jig collar. However on another note, there are guys that like it that close, as this makes the fish grab the jig further up, thus hooking it better. There are all kind of options. Edited July 22, 2014 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntermiwi Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Thx for both responses and the photo especially. I prefer to use the gami hook over mustad The 7/0 is short in the 4 ounce jig but I like the distance on the two ounce. Maybe run 7/0 in 2 oz and 8/0 in the 3 and 4 oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
