bassin101 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Hello, I am new to this site, but have seen a ton of Great information on here. I have an issue with some baits I have painted, and that being the customers want them to remain as seen in the pictures! (The pictures below are paint only) They are looking for a "Dull" or "Matte" finish, and using Createx, I don't see anyway of not putting some sort of Clearcoat/Sealer on the bait, otherwise you will make 4 or 5 cast and will reel in a Clear Bait! If anyone has any suggestions feel free to comment. I am sure there is a way, as some of the major bait companies like Lucky Craft and others have the dull finishes on their products. Although of the ones of those I purchased, the finish did not seem very durable, and didn't hold up well at all. Thanks in advance, and Tight Lines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The matte finish on the LC's I've seen is a kind of soft plastic and yeah, it will peel off at the drop of a hat. The dullest topcoat I know of is with Solarez UV cured polyester resin. It has a rather dull satin gloss, is as durable as epoxy, and is very quick to use: brush it on, rotate it for a few minutes to let it level out, then expose it to UV light and it's ready to fish. I use a UV nail salon light for 3 minutes or just sit my lure turner out in the sun for 15-20 mins. It's also cheap compared to other durable topcoats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGFAN Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I top coat with epoxy. It can be rubbed to a matte finish. I've done it with a fine sanding sponge. I'm sure there are rubbing compounds that could be used. Gunstock finishers often use a product called rottenstone, that I believe is very fine pumice. This subject comes up around here from time to time. I've not really heard of anyone finding a really great matte finish. I believe you'll be better off using a top coat that you have had success with and then removing the shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Use a gloss first, because that is the strongest top coat. Then remove the gloss as Hawgfan suggested, or with a Scotchbrite pad, or fine wet and dry sandpaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'm not completely sold on "roughing up the finish" of a clear top coat as a way of getting a matte finish. The clear coats that I've tried this on revert right back to crystal clear as soon as you put them in water. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassin101 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thanks for all of the suggestions/Ideas, I will deff give these a try and see what I can come up with....... D.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentle Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 If I'm using an epoxy clear like d2t, after it cures I throw mine in my bench top sandblast cabinet with ultra fine glass beads, a quick once over, wa la perfect matte finish. You don't have to be as careful as you may think, that d2t is tough stuff, just make sure you tape up the bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I've used this with great results http://www.tcpglobal.com/PLASTI-DIP-CLEAR-11OZ-CAN-1-EA-PLASTI-DIP-AEROSOL-11OZ-CAN-image.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Plastic dip is great, tough top coat ..but realistically, I think all top coats look the same underwater...Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassin101 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Found some Matte Clear Coat @ the Hobby store, I will let you all know how it turns out! Thanks again for all of the Ideas and suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I agree...but sometimes the people want what the people want.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGFAN Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I agree...but sometimes the people want what the people want.... My exact thoughts. Most builders realize what happens as soon as the bait gets wet, but sometimes it's easier to go along with a customer's request. Maybe they have more confidence in a matte bait and catch more fish on it, regardless if the finish actually has anything to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Well, the one thing about a matte finish, lucky craft's or plastic dip...it feels different. It has a rubbery feel that won't just slide out of a fishes mouth. Maybe it causes them to hang on a fraction longer for a solid hook-set. There must be a reason lucky craft does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pholla10 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I just started using Testors Dullcote. It makes the bait look perfectly matte; like there is no epoxy on it. I picked up a spray can at at local hobby store. They also sell a brushable jar. I haven't tested the durability of it yet but I am taking some of my Dullcoted lures fishing tommorow and I will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
