RayburnGuy Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 And an 8' ceiling. If you're going to have a ceiling fan, make it 10', or plan to fish with shorter rods. Are you trying to tell us that you've had a few "Bill Dance" moments Mark? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Are you trying to tell us that you've had a few "Bill Dance" moments Mark? Ben Well, lets just say I learned not to put my rod tips across my TM mount. Hahaha I don't actually have a ceiling fan in my garage, but I do seem to knock the dust off the fluorescent lights quite often. Where my Club meets there are ceiling fans, and a number of members have had their rods rattled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLewers Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I use my entire basement as a work shop. Its great. I have plenty of space to do the plastic and lead and crank bait stuff. Built the work benches myself and just keep adding as I go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Well, lets just say I learned not to put my rod tips across my TM mount. Hahaha I don't actually have a ceiling fan in my garage, but I do seem to knock the dust off the fluorescent lights quite often. Where my Club meets there are ceiling fans, and a number of members have had their rods rattled. Have you ever noticed that the cheap rods we buy seem impervious to just about any malady we can throw at them while the best rods in the box, that can cost hundreds of dollars, can have the tip broken off by a dragonfly that has landed on the rod and passed gas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hahaha...too true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBHUFFY1 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I am looking at this very thing. Shop around for pricing. I have located someone to build a woodframe cathedral celing 12 x 24 x 7, on skids, onsite for under $3500. Everything on16" centers. It will cost me another $1200 to have it spray-foam insulated with 1"closed-cell. Should be able to heat it from the melted plastic. I am figuring another $300 to wire it with 200 amp service. Will set my own electric pole and have electric company drop to my tie in and hang a meter. This way I can tell just how much I use. Plan to finish off the inside and hang pegboard. I have guys come over for a specific bait right now and have to dig through rubbermaids to find it. Will have a partician at 7'. 1 walk-in door and 1 window. An exhaust fan that will move the air out through a 8" vent. Looking at around $6000 for it, and it can be moved to another location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGFAN Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 IBHUFFY1, 200 amp service? Not that it would probably cost tons more, but I can't imagine how you'd ever need that much power in such a small area. A 100 amp panel should have plenty of capacity. Consider your needs before you spend more money for 10X the capacity you'll usually use. You should be able to run your exhaust fan, two space heaters, a heat gun, lighting, air compressor, and a drill or saw simultaneously at around 75 amps or less. Again, it's all about someone's needs. If you have multiple people working with high amp equipment, you may need the 200 amp service. You might also appreciate the extra panel space for running multiple dedicated circuits to stationary equipment, especially if they require 220V. It's just something for anyone planning a project like this to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) I am looking at this very thing. Shop around for pricing. I have located someone to build a woodframe cathedral celing 12 x 24 x 7, on skids, onsite for under $3500. Everything on16" centers. It will cost me another $1200 to have it spray-foam insulated with 1"closed-cell. Should be able to heat it from the melted plastic. I am figuring another $300 to wire it with 200 amp service. Will set my own electric pole and have electric company drop to my tie in and hang a meter. This way I can tell just how much I use. Plan to finish off the inside and hang pegboard. I have guys come over for a specific bait right now and have to dig through rubbermaids to find it. Will have a partician at 7'. 1 walk-in door and 1 window. An exhaust fan that will move the air out through a 8" vent. Looking at around $6000 for it, and it can be moved to another location. I don't know what Texas requires, but we have to have a final inspection and sigh off from the Building Dept. in order for the power company to heat up a new service out here in SoCal. You might have a problem getting a new service hung on a building on skids. You might not want to mention that to the Building Dept., or the power company. It is also kind of dangerous to have leads dropped down to a shed that can accidentally be moved too far, and cause the leads to drop, or short out. Maybe you could get a service on a pole, like we do for temporary power on jobsites, and then run a connection to a sub-panel inside your new shop with a waterproof flex line. That way you can move your shop around without worrying about the drops from the power pole being compromised. If you want it in a new location, you can just run a longer conduit to that location. As far as power needs are concerned, unless you're going to put AC into the shop, HAWGFAN is right. 200 amps is overkill. Of course, the cost for a 200 amp panel and breakers isn't all that much more than for a 100 or 150 amp panel, so it probably gives you flexibility in the future. Let us know how it turns out, and post some pictures. Edited September 3, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWGFAN Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) If you mount the meter on a pole and run service feeders to the structure, wiring cost will start to become a factor with 100A vs 200A service as well. I don't think AC would be an issue on loading. In my guesstimation, I allowed for 30A of heat. You'd be able to hang meat in there with that much cooling. Edited September 3, 2014 by HAWGFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBHUFFY1 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Exhaust fan rated at 5.34 amps 4 Presto pots with stir motors 1 Shooting Star system 1 Jacobs Baits Injection Machine and small pancake compressor 12000 BTU air conditioner/heater combo. 2 rows flourescent lights/8 pairs radio/cd player 19" TV table top Metal lathe 2 heat guns color shaker stir motor for cold plastic Maybe overkill, but better to have too much and not need it than to need more and not have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Exhaust fan rated at 5.34 amps 4 Presto pots with stir motors 1 Shooting Star system 1 Jacobs Baits Injection Machine and small pancake compressor 12000 BTU air conditioner/heater combo. 2 rows flourescent lights/8 pairs radio/cd player 19" TV table top Metal lathe 2 heat guns color shaker stir motor for cold plastic Maybe overkill, but better to have too much and not need it than to need more and not have it. Man, you better never let your wife find out about your shop. You'll never stop paying for it! Hahaha Put on a guest room, and I'm there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLewers Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 200amp service to the house will be great. Its actually cheaper in the long run on the power bill. I am about to drop 200amp service into my basement. That way I can put as many outlets as I want for all the different things we have to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowFISH Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I use a large portion of my basement which started as a HUGE area and has slowly gotten cramped as I've added tools, and more tools, and more tools!!!! LOL!!! One thing that I did which really helps is making things "mobile". I have one of those $400-500 Sears table saws.... I built a platform with wheels that I sit it on and roll in into a corner to store. Same with my airbrush booth, etc. I only use my table saw every now and then and with a saw - you need a ton of space behind it so you can cut long items - so the effort to roll it out in to an open area - drop it off the platform and run it is well worth the space I save. I do this for the other tools that I just don't use ALL the time. You can also do things like make your work benches tall enough to fit stuff underneath - and I mean roll that table saw under there or anything large you don't need all the time. I recently added a dust collector - before you build you space do some research and think about it - as where you place your tools effects the efficiency of the dust collector. A dust collector is a GREAT thing to have. For years I used a shopvac pluged into the back of whatever tool I was using. But my basement is 15x cleaners with a dust collector as I don't "get lazy" and run tools without collection because the shopvac was way over there or whatever. I'd also strongly recommend figuring a way to collect dust from a drill press if you have one. You'd be shocked at the amount of dust you generate boring a hole through something - I have an open 4" hose off my collector next to my drill press that I just strategically place when drilling anything bigger than 1/8" diameter - makes a HUGE difference. J. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
