vishezfish Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 I tried to do some pouring heating it with a burner and all went well I added my color, but when I poured I had Big bubbles in the finished pour...I read that u can't stir the plastic with wood?? I used the end of paint brush to stir and mix the plastic and color.... That was wood, It looked great, but it had those bubbles... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I believe Zeiner's plastic is MF brand, and there shouldn't be any bubbles at all. There are a few things you can try: First, make sure your container is well sealed. Any moisture at all will cause bubbling in the plastic. Secondly, MF requires very little mixing. All you really need to do is tip your container and give it a few shakes. You can actually overmix MF plastisol, which will cause bubbles too. If these fail, try using a butter knife instead of a wooden handle. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishezfish Posted July 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Ok cool, I won't stir to much, today when I did it I stirred alot... When I added the color..... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I just realized I didn't explain myself very well. I was talking about the plastic itself; the one or five-gallon container......those do not need too much mixing because MF's softener does not settle as much as other brands. If you shake the containers too much, you might have some bubbling. I'm betting your problem is moisture though.....rather than a mixing problem. However, when you add your materials (color, glitter, etc.), you need to mix those VERY much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishezfish Posted July 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Can u tell me more about the moisture?? I did shake the bottle very much before melting.... maybe that did it? I didn't Notice if it was sealed properly..... How could u pick up on the moisture...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 5-gallon containers are notorious for drawing moisture after they've been opened. This is why I've found it best to transfer into one-gallon jugs after opening the 5 gallon. If you're starting with one gallon containers, make sure you never leave the cap off while pouring, and also keep the cap super tight. Working in a high humidity environment will invite moisture which can seep in the container while you're pouring into the pans. It only takes a little moisture to cause bubbling in your plastic. Guys who work in the southern and eastern states, and those near coastal areas especially have problems with this. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmang Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Is there any step to take out the moisture if it indeed has gotten into the plastic? Would extra salt or stabilizer aid in overcoming the moisture? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Extra salt will only make the plastic bubble more. Heat stabilizer will not effect the bubbling either way. So far, I haven't found anything that will take moisture out once it's in your plastic. The only solution is to cook it longer and eventually the bubbles will dissipate. It usually takes an extra minute or so. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuMMeRBaits Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 oh i see, picking on us backwoods southern boys. Just kinding there als. I live out side Charleston, SC, where the heat/humidity is really, really bad. I have been using the LC Plastic since I started pouring back earlier this year, and have not had any trouble with bubbles in the plastic. I just get it mixed up good, pour out what I need for the moment and then close the gallon bottle back up. And the LC Brand takes some real stirring/mixing to get the stuff on the bottom mixed up good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I can get away with picking on southern boys 'cuz I am one originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...