ING Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Hi, guys! I am making inline spinners for myself about three years and accumulated already some experience. Usually it is spinners for salmon similar to Mepps Flying "C" or Blue Fox with blades #5 or #6 and body weight about 5/8 to 7/8 oz. There is one problem that I couldn't resolve for now: Sometimes after casting the body of lure laying over the blade horizontally and stuck deadly. It is riding in the blade like in the boat. I am calling that "boating". I've tried change the speed of retrieving, parameters of the spinner but nothing help. It happens not so often and could be ignored (except that, spinners are working perfectly) but I just curious: is somebody has encountered with same cases? During the lure test that situation could be easy emulated manually: put spinner on the suffers of water horizontally (body in the blade) and start puling. Blade will stuck. All lures more or less are prone for that problem. Even Mepps Flying "C". Any ideas? Thanks Edited October 13, 2014 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Every in-line spinner I ever used with a willow blade I needed to jerk the spinner to get the blade spinning. That said, French blades don't seem to suffer from that problem as much, so maybe if you try a different style of blade or add some spacers to change the blade distance to the lure body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Smalljaw times 2. More distance between body and blade. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
School Master Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Never made an inline in my life. I don't know if this could be a contributing factor, but it is a problem I have encountered building conventional spinnerbaits, so I figured I would mention it. There is a correct way to put a blade on. It is possible to put it on upside down. The cupped side should be facing backwards (towards the hook) when hanging at rest. If the blade is having problems spinning, try taking the clevis and blade off and flip it around. Try it again, see if it helps. Like I said no clue if that's the problem, just something to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) It is doesn't help to resolve that problem but case another: After casting spinner is drowning by weight first, blade is following and when you start to retrieve, blade turns backward, upper part of blade is snagging to wire and stuck about 90 degree to wire. It is happens very often and fisherman surprising why they are not feeling "tap-tap" until jerk line... Only Mepps spinners have no that problem thanks to special shape of patented folded clevis. Therefore Mepps could accept big distance above of clevis. Blue Fox using regular stirrup clevises keeping that distance minimal to eliminate problem mentioned above. Edited October 13, 2014 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 P.S. It was reply for Musky Glenn post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 When in doubt, copy a successful lure exactly, and then play around with variations until it won't work anymore. That way, you'll see the limitations of the design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately Mepps spinners impossible to copy. As I told, they are using special shape of patented clevis and very thin kind of latex over body. Blue Fox spinners are not so attractive for salmon were I am fishing for. Also it is difficult to find exactly same blades. Benicia Tackle Shop selling self-made Ve-Ze lures but all lures listed above have some shortcomings that I am trying eliminate. The last shortcoming which I am fighting it is "boating" that I've mentioned in the first post. It is looks like nobody has remedy from that. Edited October 14, 2014 by ING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Post a pic of your spinner I'd like to see the size of the clevis in relation to the rest of your spinner. Just from your description it sounds like your using too small of a clevis which would allow the blade tip to hang up causing it to plane (your phrase boating) Last I knew Mepps ordered the clevis's from Worth, and look just like the ones I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 The mepps clevis has a leading edge and must be installed a certain way. I really doubt it is any better than a standard folded clevis. Just my two cents. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodtimesfishing Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I think fatman has something. Be sure you are using the correct size clevis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thank you! I'll try to do that. There are some recommendations for posting pics on that forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Which forum?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 "Post a pic of your spinner.." Did you mean on Wire baits? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Increasing of clevis size increasing appearance of problem I've described in the post #5 without eliminating "boating" (plane) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 ING yes please post a pic of it here. Show a good shot of the clevis and blade on the wire. If you're tying materials on the treble place the spinner straight up and down with the blade pointed straight down toward the treble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ING Posted October 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Fatman. sorry, probably I am stupid, but I couldn't find instruction how to post pics on that forum. Could you navigate me where it is? By the way, at now mine improved spinners starting rotation immediately (almost always). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 I use photobucket - there you just copy the contents of the IMG box and paste it into your reply. I sent you a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
