spoonpluggergino Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I searched this site and tried suggested suppliers, seems like that Venture tape is not making any of the foil tapes, only strips of tape. I cannot even find just the silver foil. Anyone that has a current supplier for the BriteBak foil please help out Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hmm, the rolls of silver foil reflective tape are still listed in the Venture catalog but I can't find any suppliers that have it in stock via Google either. Bummer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thanks Bob I tried the same, google it and no one seems to stock it. I am going to use the HVAC alluminum duct tape, it's good stuff and easy to work with. I just wanted to try some of the gold foil Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) I wasn't satisfied with the Britebak "gold" foil I got a few years ago. It was obviously a brass color, not gold, and it corroded and turned dark brown in spots on the lures I tried it on. I thought Venture had pulled it from their offerings but might be wrong. After the failure, I used the silver foil and over-sprayed it with some transparent yellow, which looks fine. Edited October 15, 2014 by BobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hey Gino, If your looking for a good gold color that's still highly reflective try spraying a light coat, or two, of Createx transparent Sunrise Yellow over the silver foil. Here's a bait I did to look like the Rapala perch color. Don't look at the bottom of the bait as it's painted with opaque yellow. The sunrise yellow over the foil is on the sides of the bait. Ben http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/index.php?/gallery/image/7896-rapala-perch-pattern-on-foiled-dd22/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I agree with Rayburnguy, Trans. Sunrise Yellow over chrome or shinny tape gives the best gold I have seen. I love to watch it change from yellow to gold as you dry it with a hairdryer. There is a big difference in how it looks from wet to dry stage. Musky Glenn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Hey Guys Thanks I will try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahn427 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I just called Venture Tape ........ They are out of business ....... Sold out to 3M .......... No one seems to have the foil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I just called Venture Tape ........ They are out of business ....... Sold out to 3M .......... No one seems to have the foil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobv Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I emailed 3m and they gave me this phone number to call GTA Venture at 800-343-1076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahn427 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Yeah ....... Try to call it. They eliminated the receptionist and every option gives you another # to call. When you finally get someone they give you a name and # of someone else that doesn't return calls ........ Went thru hours of this before I posted ...... Try it ...... Hope you have better luck. Is there another product out there like brite bak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Only one I know of is the adhesive foil tape like that used to seal duct work. If anyone knows anybody that works with stained glass they might Know of another supplier. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Looking around, I checked out Jones Tones, another supplier of art foils used by some builders. They announced that they have discontinued their line of foils. So... it looks like the universe of thin foils for crankbaits is narrowing significantly. 3M makes some adhesive foils but they are 3 and 5 mm thick. The 3 mm foil is about 5X the thickness of heavy duty aluminum foil, so I'm doubtful of its usefulness. All I can think of now is to use the aluminum duct tape foil, which I have used in the past and is readily available at home centers. But I hate that it is so thick and has a thick adhesive backing too. Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Hey Guys I used the silver aluminum foil, my first foil bait to boot, it worked out beautifully. I sealed the foil seams with thinned out Devcon 2-ton the seams did not come through when I painted the bait. I done a golden walleye pattern and I followed Ben and Musky Glen advised used the sunrise yellow to get the gold effect worked perfect. To finish the bait I sprayed the back with Createx gold than shaded the bait with transparent black very thin. Got the job done Thanks again fellow bait builders Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimP Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Group: I bumped into something you may find usable as a thin foil cover. "Amaco - Art Emboss"- This does not have anything on the back, but a mist of any of the 3M spray adhesives will fix that. Here is a link to Amazon - Amazon.com: AMACO ArtEmboss 125 6-Inch-by-6-Inch Metal Sheets, Bright Gold Extra Light Also can be found at "Crafts 2000" a thin foil in packs of 125 sheets of 6" X 6". This stuff measures .001 thickness, reminds you of the foil that candy is wrapped in. Very soft and conforms well to the edges. I think a pack was around $15.00. Every pack I have seen there was "Bright Gold" but I would think they make other colors. The gold color is just a surface coating and wipes away clean with just a swipe of a paper towel slightly dampened with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol. Good luck, Jim P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Thank you for the info Jim. I logged on to Amazon and they have quite a selection of colors Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahn427 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I didn't see a brite silver color ........ Ant other products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimP Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Thank you for the info Jim. I logged on to Amazon and they have quite a selection of colors Gino Gino: I think you might be looking at a different product on Amazon. Any of the 91/4" x 12" sheets or anything sold in tubes is a heavier material. It's called "Light Weight" and have seen it listed as .003" thickness. My previous post only applies to AMACO part # 07994R as listed in the previous post. The previous posting has a link to Amazon, that link specifies thickness as .003" but that listing is wrong. The actual measurement is .001", the foils that we use in our home kitchens also measures about .001" but the Embossing foil seems like a softer material. ??? If you find something that works, please let the group know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobv Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 This looks like Jones foil.................http://www.dharmatrading.com/paints/icraft-decofoil.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I pulled both sights and you are right the other material is thicker. I did find the AmacoArtEmboss Thanks Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobv Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Then there is this...........................http://www.amazon.com/Silver-Adhesive-Mylar-20x27-Package/dp/B002544T3I# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basman Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Looking around, I checked out Jones Tones, another supplier of art foils used by some builders. They announced that they have discontinued their line of foils. So... it looks like the universe of thin foils for crankbaits is narrowing significantly. 3M makes some adhesive foils but they are 3 and 5 mm thick. The 3 mm foil is about 5X the thickness of heavy duty aluminum foil, so I'm doubtful of its usefulness. All I can think of now is to use the aluminum duct tape foil, which I have used in the past and is readily available at home centers. But I hate that it is so thick and has a thick adhesive backing too. Damn! I ordered and just received 2 packs of Jones Tones foil online from Sears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goolies Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I use this: http://www.amazon.com/CS-Hyde-Metalized-Acrylic-Adhesive/dp/B003HKRFB2 I believe it is thinner than the 2.2 mil they call out. The acrylic adhesive is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 The Mylar foils are great if you want a chrome or mirror effect. But usually I prefer the softer metallic shine of aluminum, which more resembles fish scales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
