jbdesigns Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I finally found what I'm really looking for Apparently they are called a kaiser jig. Aspirin jig with a big socket Any chance anyone has a mold like that? Or knows where I can buy some? Sorry to be such a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSNeely Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Told ya VMC had them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Do you think it would be possible to take the aspirin jig, and with a pair of pliers with a small round piece of metal welded on, press both sides with the pliers and make a big enough socket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfrog Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Aspirin heads eye sockets have utilized nearly all the area they have available for their individual size . To get a bigger eye in one if that is the intent , You can only flatten the eye ridge . Then paint it stick the eye on and clear epoxy coat over it so the eye will stay . I for my own reasons epoxy coat everything I can . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 The jig shown, has a ridge for an inset eye. Similar to a socket eye jig by Do-It molds. If you want a deeper inset, you will have to have a new mold made. You can always cut away material on a mold, however to add material to get a rounded appearance is impossible to do by hand. You can get any of the molds by Do-It, pour the jig and just stick on the eye and be done with it. The picture you posted is from a custom made mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Toad frog I'm not looking to but a bigger eye on an aspirin jig I'm looking for aspirin jigs with an eye socket in them, utilizing most of the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSNeely Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I don't believe they make an aspirin jig with an indent (Like already stated). DO-IT makes a live bait mold. Look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 im on the prowl boys!!!! someone has gotta make this mold? anyone here interested in makeing one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 There is a guy on this site Bob La Londe, he makes custom molds. His banner comes up when you are in the general forums area. PM him and I'm sure he will give you a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Why don't you just take collarless ball heads and flatten the sides paint and stick the eyes on?? These only have 3mm 3d eyes on them but have room for bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 A good vice with smooth side inserts (I use A35 teco clips held on by masking tape) will let you squeeze the sides of any lead head to get a flat for eyes. If you want a mold that will let you pour flat sided heads, maybe you could get a multiple cavity mold a little heavier than you want, and fill the bottoms of the cavities with JB Weld, smoothed to make a flat the size of the eye you want to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 found what im after boys, just gotta get ahold of Ron Don.. http://www.jigcraft.com/jigcraft/showthread.php?tid=7310&page=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I believe Ron closed the business down, he's been pouring for himself. Saw your post over on Jigcraft - click on his name and send him a pm, Don't know for sure how big he can pour in those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Messages sent to a few guys who "pinned" there molds. Here's to hoping. Do any of you guys think a nice set of pliers with some thin rods epoxied onto them could squeeze the sides and recess enough of a socket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Messages sent to a few guys who "pinned" there molds. Here's to hoping. Do any of you guys think a nice set of pliers with some thin rods epoxied onto them could squeeze the sides and recess enough of a socket? No, you would have to do this in a vice, as you or anyone else doesn't have the strength to manually put a ridge on a lead jig. Personally you are going to waste a lot of time in your endeavors. Buy a mold and or have one custom made and be done with it. You will never achieve what you want to do by hand. I assume you never poured jigs before. Well let me tell you that there is a big learning curve in that just alone not including painting them. However if time is not an issue, than you are more than welcome to try. However I am telling you from the get go, that you are looking about this the wrong way. You need to have a game plan and have a starting point. No offense, but you are all over the map with this project. You need to think this through and find out what your budget is, do you want to pour the jigs, do you want to buy a custom mold etc. etc. How many jigs you want to make are you selling them or just for yourself. Lot of questions you have to ask yourself and get an honest answer. Edited October 27, 2014 by cadman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedHed Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 JungleJim has the mold - not sure what sizes was cut by Crazy Angler. Not sure if he posts here but he does post on Jigcraft. He has it with the swivels attached also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Cadman, sorry to be all over the map. I was trying to find information on a jig head I couldn't find. I have zero time,(2 young toddlers) Don't want to pour Want enough for myself and to sell some to keep this hobby afloat And a bit of money to spend. Sorry if I'm just trying to grasp some knowledge. Led I sent Jim a message on jc, just awaiting a response Thanks to all who have helped with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Cadman, sorry to be all over the map. I was trying to find information on a jig head I couldn't find. I have zero time,(2 young toddlers) Don't want to pour Want enough for myself and to sell some to keep this hobby afloat And a bit of money to spend. Sorry if I'm just trying to grasp some knowledge. Led I sent Jim a message on jc, just awaiting a response Thanks to all who have helped with this I understand where you are going with this. I'm just trying to make this easier for you so you don't spend a lot of wasted time. Didn't mean to come off like a jerk, just want to give you some easier choices, as many people like yourself want to jump in, spend a lot of money only to find that this is not what they expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 This no good? http://shawncollinscustoms.net/jigs.htm#AsprinheadJigCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) This no good? http://shawncollinscustoms.net/jigs.htm#AsprinheadJigCB I'm sure Shawn could make him what he wants. I have quite a few of Shawns molds and they are great. But the cost is usually more than most people realize for something custom like that. Especially compared to a sandcast Do-It mold.$30 vs $200- $300 is a big difference. But then again you do get exactly what you want. Edited October 28, 2014 by Kasilofchrisn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 This no good? http://shawncollinscustoms.net/jigs.htm#AsprinheadJigCB Ya that would be it, but I'm looking at 1/8 & 1/4ozCadman, No worries, I understand where you are coming from. Believe me, I do not even know you, but from all the reading I have done I have a lot of respect for you and and your knowledge of tackle. I'll be happy if I learn 1/2 of what you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ya that would be it, but I'm looking at 1/8 & 1/4oz Cadman, No worries, I understand where you are coming from. Believe me, I do not even know you, but from all the reading I have done I have a lot of respect for you and and your knowledge of tackle. I'll be happy if I learn 1/2 of what you know You do realize Shawn makes custom molds right? That means if you can dream it he can probably make a mold for it. I currrently have him working on a smaller freshwater version of one of my saltwater jig molds. I have another set of molds that makes jigs from 1/8 ounce all the way to 24 ounces all from Collins customs and all exactly the same just smaller or bigger. If it were me I would first try modifying the Aspirin head jig mold from Do-It. http://www.barlowstackle.com/Do-It-Aspirin-Head-Jig-Mold-P173.aspx Either that or geting some jigs and making them how you want then then making yourself a silicone mold off those jigs. If they work out as planned then look into an expensive CNC mold from Shawn Collins Or Bob Lalonde of CNC molds n stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdesigns Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) You do realize Shawn makes custom molds right? That means if you can dream it he can probably make a mold for it. I currrently have him working on a smaller freshwater version of one of my saltwater jig molds. I have another set of molds that makes jigs from 1/8 ounce all the way to 24 ounces all from Collins customs and all exactly the same just smaller or bigger. If it were me I would first try modifying the Aspirin head jig mold from Do-It. http://www.barlowstackle.com/Do-It-Aspirin-Head-Jig-Mold-P173.aspx Either that or geting some jigs and making them how you want then then making yourself a silicone mold off those jigs. If they work out as planned then look into an expensive CNC mold from Shawn Collins Or Bob Lalonde of CNC molds n stuff. Only problem is I don't want/ can't pour my ownBut it seems like it would be lot easier to get what I want that way Edited October 28, 2014 by jbdesigns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Only problem is I don't want/ can't pour my own But it seems like it would be lot easier to get what I want that way I bet if you buy the mold, somebody will pour it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I bet if you buy the mold, somebody will pour it for you. I have had friends do that for me. A friend wanted a sinker size I didn't have and wasn't planning on buying. He had some lead he wanted to trade for sinkers. He paid for the mold and got half his lead back in sinkers including the special size he wanted and a few jigs as well. To the OP I guess another option though spendy is to have someone like cast industries make you a silicone spincast mold. Then you can just call them and get as many as you want. They cast them and send them to you. I don't recall the prices off hand but I do believe a Shawn Collins mold would be cheaper.Unless you need a few thousand jigs or something. Then again if the one in your second pic is still made why not just buy some retail for your own use? Or at least some to try out before committing more $$$? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...