OsageJoe Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I'm having a problem with my mesh scale material nicking/scratching the paint underneath it. Is this just part of using it? Or is it my material? I think I just got it from hobby lobby or something. It makes me not want to use the scaling at all. The last time it happened the baits had been sitting for a few hours at least - so I believe the paint was dry. Edited October 31, 2014 by OsageJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 You should be using some type of cloth or nylon netting for your scales. Metal screen types of netting will without a doubt scratch your paint. Also, if you wrap the netting around the bait, spray it, and then let it dry before you remove the netting then the paint will dry to the netting. When the netting is removed it can take pieces of the scaling off. If you just lay the netting on there, spray it, then carefully remove it then you should be good. Get yourself a ring that women use for needle point and put your netting in that. Lay it up against the bait and shoot. Then you can remove it straight off of the bait right away. Hope this helps. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I don't think it is necessarily the mesh. In my experience all scale cloth has it's own "learning curve", and needs to be broken in. On small cranks I also have had nylon mesh scratch my paint, if I wrap it around a bait and hold it on the bottom with clothes pins, so I can paint both sides and the top. This happens when the mesh is brand new. I found that using it once or twice seems to soften it's edges, and the scratching isn't a problem. Maybe it's a combination of the paint that now coats them, and the heat setting with a hair dryer, which seems to make the mesh more flexible. Thin, heat set coats of paint also help keep the netting from sticking and pulling off the scale paint, but I do remove it very slowly and carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagine_studios Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I like the embroidery hoop idea, but then if you're fading from one color to another, that might make things a little tougher. I figure I'll go that route for single color, and then try wrapping it for multiple. Thanks! Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goolies Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I heat set a couple of coats of clear on the bait before netting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageJoe Posted October 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Are you talking about a createx gloss coat or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonpluggergino Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I had that problem with one of my netting material, by accident I found that by waiting to the next day the paint is really hard and when you go to do the netting works really great. That is good if you are not in a hurry Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goolies Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Are you talking about a createx gloss coat or something like that? I use createx gloss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Are you talking about a createx gloss coat or something like that? If you use their gloss be sure to flush your brush really well afterwards. It is way harder than the paint itself, and you don't want to have to try and clean it out of your airbrush once it's dried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageJoe Posted October 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks for the responses guys... I've never understood the application for Createx gloss coat/top coat? Can I spray these, heat set the gloss, and then continue to spray different colors over them? Also Can I use it to just add a protective layer and then use the scaling over it? Another ? Can I use the gloss and then use my regular finish for the final step (Either dipping in MCU or brushing D2T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageJoe Posted October 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Goolie your post came in as I was writing, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks for the responses guys... I've never understood the application for Createx gloss coat/top coat? Can I spray these, heat set the gloss, and then continue to spray different colors over them? Also Can I use it to just add a protective layer and then use the scaling over it? Another ? Can I use the gloss and then use my regular finish for the final step (Either dipping in MCU or brushing D2T? Yes to all the above. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Some guys wash and use fabric softener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 If the scale material feels stiff and scratchy when it's new you can submerge it for a few seconds in boiling water. This will not only soften the material it will also take out any kinks where the material has been folded. I've also noticed there is a difference in the softness between different colors of the same material. Not sure why this is unless it has something to do with the way the material is treated to make the different colors. I bought my scale material at Hobby Lobby and for whatever reason the powder blue material is the softest I've found. You can use it straight from the store without having to soften it. The soft material will also conform to the compound curves of a bait much easier than a stiffer material. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 ...for what it's worth...when you have the bait wrapped ...hit it with the heat gun briefly and it will snug up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 ...for what it's worth...when you have the bait wrapped ...hit it with the heat gun briefly and it will snug up! Good tip, thanks for that. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawjacker Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 try this.....a lot of guys try to stretch the material to tight to get it to form to the bait......that is the wrong thing to do.....as when you try to remove it..... it simply smears or scratches the paint.....also try soaking the material in some sort of solvent to soften it up.....I shoot laq. paint so I clean my netting often and very rarely scratch a lure...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageJoe Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Thanks for the responses. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
