muskiestalker51 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 was cleaning this reel an when i try to put the crankside it doesnt want to go. i cant find whats keeping it from lining up. im not sure what model this is numbers under the seat are 991012 35 it only has 2 brakes im just learning on cleaning an lubing my reels i hope it isnt sharp learning curve. thanks for any info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Here's a link to a site with schematics for Abu Garcia reels. Just scroll down until you find your reel and click on the PDF file. It will show you where every part on the reel goes. hope this helps, Ben http://www.pursuetheoutdoors.com/fishing/reel-schematics/index.php?dir=Abu+Garcia%2F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 thanks rayburn its a 5500c3. Im not missing any parts there just seems to be something holding me up for the crankside to seat. ive tried rebuilding it oppostie then your suppose to from the othere side hope theres a garcia guru in hede lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I didn't mean to make you think the link was to a parts list. The diagrams shown at the link will show you where everything goes as well as the order in which they go there. It's like a blueprint for your reel. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 the link was a great help i couldnt find my reel until i searched the link i have been having a hard time finding the one with 2 breaks. yes a big help thank hou i have been over the reel several times and everything looks in order. when i took that side off i did have a resistance kind of sticky. the reel was working fine beside a noise from the spool. ive greased lightly an oiled all the moving parts an everything looks in order cor some unknown reason when i do but the side on something isnt lining up i presume the spool wont spin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braided Line Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Try U-Tube for a tutorial on the tear down of that reel. Seeing is better than guessing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 im not sure but the pinion gear seem sloppy, but thats without the axle installed i have a feeling this might be wants keeping the side plate not to seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Try typing the number found on the bottom of the reel foot into the browser of your computer and do a search for it. Something like ("xxxxx....... for the number) then abu garcia reel. If you still can't find what you want email Abu Garcia and ask them if they have a schematic for your reel. They'll be able to identify it by the number on the bottom of the reel foot. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Usually it is the two break blocks that slide on the wire shaft. They get moved to the ends of the wire and won't go inside the spool. Slide them as close together as they will go and give it another try. The other thing that happens sometimes is the tension cap gets screwed on to far and won't let the spool axle go in far enough. Back the tension cap way off until you get the side screws attached. Hope this helps. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 thats what it looks like musky ive pushed them in as far as they will go. where the blocks are the wire on both sides are bent inward should i bend them out maybe a little. also i have the tension knob off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 the 2 white blocks are the brakes they are on the clutch washer this is engaged with the pinion gear on the inside of the side piece. there is a recised chamber i assume the blocks ride in there. i put them in but the spool wont spin real easy any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Muskiestalker, The brakes work by rubbing on the ends when they slide out to hit the retaining ring they are set inside. There should be some clearance between the brake and the bottom of the race way. The reel not turning makes me wonder if your reel has anti reverse gear or if it is the older style that has the anti reverse dog gear. If the handle will turn backwards some then check the dog gear to make sure it straddles the gear that activates anti reverse. This dog gear can be put in backwards and not work. If it has the anti reverse ball bearing that won't allow the handle to turn backwards any, check all the stack of parts that are on the handle shaft, might have something there that isn't stacked correctly. These are some of the easier reels to work on but they can be cranky once in a while. Keep us informed and we should be able to get you through it. Just don't force parts. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Muskiestalker, Without the shaft installed the pinion gear will feel very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 ok went over everything on the crankside all the gears are working i made sure the pinion gear is turning when i turn the handle shaft. when i slide the side down to the spool i can see the brake blocks just on the edge ive pushed them in enough to go in but when i turn the handle the pinion gear isnt engaging the clutch washer that turns the spool everything feels really tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Just checking out a few things, Is the notch in the pinion gear facing the spool? The bar that has the two springs that disengage the pinion turned correctly, springs should go on last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I had trouble finding a schematic by that foot number. It looks like your reel doesn't have the black bar with the two springs, yours engages a different way I believe. It shows to have a dog gear for the anti reverse. Are you sure the two brass sides of it straddles the gear on the handle shaft. The dog gear sits on a pin on the round plate and can be hard to align with gear when you slide gears on the brass shaft. I usually fit it to the gear and as I slide the gear set onto the brass shaft, I make sure the dog gear is still on the gear as it goes onto the pin in the round plate. Any way you could post a few photo's of the problem and stack of gear parts. If you would rather, Send it to me and I will put it back if I can, no charge. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 hey musky ill work on some pics an post tomorrow. been out fishing finally got a pretty 30 today on homemade bait lol. i just might send it to you if we cant figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Muskiestalker, I sent you a private message. Congratulations on the 30". This has been one of the slowest years of my musky fishing. So far I only have one musky of 29", caught way back in April. Musky Glenn Edited November 6, 2014 by Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 musky sent you a package today i hate for it to just ly around here i hope you can tell me whats wrong sent you a message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Way to go Glenn. If that's not doing your best to help someone I don't know what is. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 heres my reel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 im learning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Looks like you did a good job of cleaning. Did you have any trouble getting the spool to engage with the clicker? We'll get it worked out. Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Glenn Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I received your reel today and it turned into a head scratcher. You know that feeling when everything looks correct but it still doesn't work, well that was me this evening. The brake blocks were the problem of keeping the reel from closing. But like you said, when you got it closed the spool was very hard to turn. I went from end to end and finally traced it down to the spool. I found that by taking a spool out of one of my working reels and installing it into your reel. That cured the problem, but what was wrong with your spool? I thought that the bearings might be bad and locking it up under pressure. I found a used spool out of 4500 and took the bearings out of it. They were in bad shape so I didn't go that route. That reel did have a good brake block piece on it that was good. I replaced the sheet metal part that holds the two white brake blocks and that cured your problem. You can make out this part in your second photo in the middle. It is the piece holding the two white brake blocks. I probably could have just replaced the brake blocks but since that worked, leave well enough alone. I will mail your reel back on Monday along with the bad brake block. Even after knowing what the problem was I still can't see what was wrong with it. Just one of those "could only happen to me deals". It should be good for many more fish. Good Luck, Musky Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskiestalker51 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 well i knew something was wrong there but thats my first of cleaning it i thought about taking another one apart but id still have been loss for what id done if it would have worked for me. your knowledge really did the job. like i said when i took the side off there was some resistances is that typical when the come apart. i even thought about nipping a little off the clutch washer but leave enough for the blocks to stay on. when i get into the other ones i hope i dont have any troubles but im sure you will be here thank you very much i really appreciate your help. headed muskie fishing next week got a polar vortex lol where did that ever come from gezz getting old sucks. lol thanks again glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
