wickedmega Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Hi everyone, i'm new to this page,but not new to lure "painting".I see some custom lure creators call them "Photo finish" or "Painted image". I see they do well with sales & they get really good $ for their completed lures that appear to use a printed out image of a bait fish,like a shiner,sunfish or frog etc. I wanted to dabble into this area of lure building.Anybody doing this at the present time or have done some in the past,if so could you lead me in the right direction to get "everything" i would need to get started & complete a lure like this?(see pic) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is that a lure you painted? If I could paint like that, I'd think that I'd died and gone to heaven. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedmega Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is that a lure you painted? If I could paint like that, I'd think that I'd died and gone to heaven. Hi Mark, no,this is a foiled or imaged lure that i'm trying to get info on how to do it!! I think he got over $40 for this one.This particular lure imager or whatever you want to call what he is doing,gets at least $20 to $25 every time for his lures,that's why i want to learn how it's done. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 They also get quite a few complaints of it peeling off after a fish or two...esp. on those plastic baits...good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Yes, I've heard that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelentless Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Not doubting what you've heard but hard to imagine pealing under an epoxy coat. Maybe a concrete sealer dipped? I think they look amazing and appear to take as much if not more talent to get it right than just practicing your painting skills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchilton Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 It could be hydrographics printing, also known as water transfer printing. Basically you print the image on a clear film that is floated on top of water surface. The film dissolves, leaving only the dye/ink floating on the water and then you dip the part to apply the picture to it. This is the way they print natural camoflage images like leaves and branches on gunstocks, bows, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 There are a couple of tutorials in the "Hard Bait How To" section that will show you how to do this. Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) It could be hydrographics printing, also known as water transfer printing. Basically you print the image on a clear film that is floated on top of water surface. The film dissolves, leaving only the dye/ink floating on the water and then you dip the part to apply the picture to it. This is the way they print natural camoflage images like leaves and branches on gunstocks, bows, etc. I've seen some of those videos. That is a really cool process! All the videos I watched showed pieces that didn't require precise orientation of the part being dipped. I doubt my hands would be steady enough to get the image on correctly on a crank. Edited November 21, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 With all things of this nature it takes time and effort and certain skill sets....no debate that Stanley makes a beautiful lure but there isn't a whole lot of skill required with the air brush, If you have facebook subscribe to the bass barter sites , rarely does it go a day or two without someone going off about a failure on these type of finishes....the big game guys can cover their lure with so many layers of epoxy that this rarely occurs...don't think you can do that with a lightweight bass lure and not affect it negatively....so hook rash esp. from quality trebles are going eat those things up, but no doubt they gorgeous, after all they are a photo of the fish....right now def. appears to be the flavor of the month for selling lures, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Not doubting what you've heard but hard to imagine pealing under an epoxy coat. Maybe a concrete sealer dipped? I think they look amazing and appear to take as much if not more talent to get it right than just practicing your painting skills. Just want to be clear...I think they are amazing...the fact that I have heard about the high failure rate is what has kept me from spending the time to learn it. Different set of skills entirely. The failures I have heard have been epoxy coatings not concrete sealer. I don't think concrete sealer would be an effective clear for this application. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) sonoman, if you'll PM your mailing addy to me I'll send you a lure...free of charge. I need someone to put it thru the paces. Edited November 26, 2014 by saltshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 10-4 would love to, I will send you one of mine in return...Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Although I appreciate the offer, this isn't about swappin'. I want you to use, abuse the lure and let me know when anything starts "peeling off". If that is happening to my work...I really need to know because, until now, the worst thing I've heard is that an eye came off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 the worst thing I've heard is that an eye came off. Did they send it in for repair? If so did you paint a patch over the eye and send it back? Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 10-4 you are sending it to right guy then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bois d'Arc Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Ben ....Do you do standup comedy? If so let me know when you'll be in Dallas. at the patch comment so hard I spilled paint on my shoe! Good comedy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 No Boisarc, I wouldn't want to ruin my amateur standing by taking a chance at getting paid. Sorry about the paint on your shoe. Next time you read something funny maybe you'll spill some paint remover on your shoe. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Ben ....Do you do standup comedy? If so let me know when you'll be in Dallas. at the patch comment so hard I spilled paint on my shoe! Good comedy! X2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 X2! You spilled paint on your shoe too? Next thing ya know I'll be getting lawyer letters in the mail demanding new shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You spilled paint on your shoe too? Next thing ya know I'll be getting lawyer letters in the mail demanding new shoes. You're safe. The red wine hides the paint stains. Actually, I get compliments on the varied colors it produces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...