sonoman Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 There are some in the gallery section, man I'm still waiting to put that to its paces....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilverFox Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I can't get the gallery to work on this thing. Sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I just go to his profile then to gallery from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Here's a few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilverFox Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 There ya go. Nothing I paint or nothing hughesy paints is ever going to catch as many fishermen as those. They look awesome, well done Saltshaker. I have no problem with you doing this. If I didn't like or couldn't get the results I wanted painting I'd give it a try or buy from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 The 110 is painted foil...no image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think Hughesy has done fairly well, just sayin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I remember buying an airbrush and sitting in my shop with the brush in one hand and a pic of one of Hughesy's lures in the other...thinking......there is NO way!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilverFox Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'm not saying he hasn't done well and I'm not saying his work isn't nice. I'm just saying in my opinion painted baits will never catch as many fishermen as these newer baits. The industry is evolving and soon painted baits will be a small portion of the market... very small. I don't believe these baits will catch anymore fish than painted ones when done on moving baits but the fish are not the ones buying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark poulson Posted January 13, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 After I burned down my garage the second time, because I saw how far I had to go to even come close to his paint jobs, my homeowner's insurance won't allow me to look at Tim Hughes' baits any more. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Personally I think the guys in the know want and desire lures that work more so than fairground queens, yes the product sells very well on auction sites and I am quite sure guys that do this have plenty of business....I am sure soon you will see this process married to lures that are top to bottom custom built but the price will certainly reflect this, painting will never go away because at the end of the day what the majority want is stuff that works, at a price point they can afford... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Until we see a time that a bass will not touch an unpainted blank...I think we'll all be just fine. Fortunately, I don't think that day will ever come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 The 110 is painted foil...no image. Saltshaker, Thats about the purtiest lure I've ever seen. Think I'll go burn down my garage. Would love to be able to do that. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Saltshaker, Thats about the purtiest lure I've ever seen. Think I'll go burn down my garage. Would love to be able to do that. John John, Be careful. The ins. investigators are catching on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 LOL @ JBlaze. Mark's done got somethin' started now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 For as much as color does not matter as a pike fisherman I have caught hundreds of pike color X and white spoons I have a red head white body super shadrap that has no teeth marks on it where a more "natural" shad is well an truly chewed up. Color does not matter until it does! That is why I started down this path the ability to have options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 "Color does not matter until it does!" So true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bass Man Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Me and a friend were both throwing staysee 90 jerkbaits, a few years ago. I was throwing my custom painted threadfin shad, while he was throwing a store bought lucky craft color. I caught 25 bass, to his 10 bass. I definitely think color has a lot to do catching bass. We also won two tournaments throwing nothing but the custom shad color!! I also caught my biggest smallmouth & spotted bass on baits that I painted. Luck? Maybe so!!But I sure do have confidence when I am throwing one. If I was able, I would post every fish caught on them & let you be the judge. Nothing like catching little green fish on something you created!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeeter Posted January 14, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I believe that color does matter. I have been throwing crankbaits hard since 1998 and I feel that I have proved that to myself. However, that is just my opinion. As far as paint jobs are concerned….. that is just the fisherman’s decision. So many fish have been caught and so much money has been won off of simple paint schemes (Homer, Dolphin, Carp, Black/White, Black/Yellow) that I feel super HD paint jobs are not necessary. HOWEVER, I do look at these beautiful lures as a work of art. It is complicated and takes a lot of talent to create these beautiful objects. I appreciate the effort and talent of those that make them. To me it is what separates those that just want to make and/or paint a bait to use or those that are truly passionate about the craft. I have bought some of these baits for my personal collection. I just appreciate the exceptional skill and craftsmanship of others. I have said forever that if you are going to make well made crankbaits you have to “love the craft”. You have to be totally ate up with making the best crankbait that your two hands can possibly make. To me, this means going the extra mile to develop your skills and knowledge. You have to be willing to make countless mistakes to develop your personal talents. I constantly push myself to reach a higher plane than any other bait maker. I am willing to make the mistakes and put up with the failures to make the finest crankbaits that God and my two hands will allow. And I doubt that many people have spent the time studying crankbaits in a pool as much as I have. I don’t care about how much time it takes, how much money it costs, how many I can make at a time or how much money I can make. I just want to make the best. In other words…..I don’t care about the money…. I want the name. I don’t judge my work by showing my lures to fishermen. I just watch the reactions of other bait makers when they see one of my crankbaits. Bait makers know how much work it takes to make them. Therefore, it is their reaction to my work that I want to see. When I hand a fellow craftsman one of my baits and I see their eyes widen in the first two seconds of seeing the lure then I know I have done good work on the appearance. If the bait knocks their socks off then they have to react, they don’t have to say a thing. However, that does not necessarily mean that the lure is any good. If I sell a lure to someone, and they come back for another, then I know that they are catching fish with it. For me that is enough proof that my work is acceptable. But when it really comes down to it, I am the best judge of my work. If I am happy with the way a lure looks and performs then I am satisfied for the moment. I set my own standards very high and I know that I am my toughest critic. I don’t lie to myself. I don’t need the approval of someone else. I know in my guts that a particular bait is the best that I can create. But….. we all have to do a little “showboating” now and then. There are two quotes that I have always remembered and believed in. Rick Clunn : “A lure is nothing more than a tool” to get the job done. Bill Dance: “The number one lure in every fisherman’s tackle box is confidence.” I feel that if we believe that we have the right tool and have the confidence to fish it properly, the only thing left is to find the right fish to present it to. I think that this is the number one factor that most of us fail at. So this year, that is what I will be working on. Skeeter 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Couldn't agree more Skeeter. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichthus Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I agree with this too. But I have to say that I believe there is a "tipping point" of realism where a painted bait portraying a certain type of forage looks very different from a realistically painted bait while in action. Back in summer, I started producing a different pattern of mine that I called Delta Gill. The first bait I painted was just the pattern and looked pretty good. Then, I was talking to one of my buddies and he said that if you look at bluegill while they are younger, they often have this light purple sheen to them. I went to work and thinned down purple and pearl mixed together and brushed it over the paint job. After, I tested it alongside the same bait with none of the purple like sheen and they looked like a completely different bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt M Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well said Skeeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bass Man Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Here is a picture of the shad color I was throwing that day. Forgot to mention, I was fishing out of the back of the boat. Edited January 15, 2015 by Big Bass Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomBaits4You Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Saltshaker are you they guy that has been selling those foiled ones in eBay? If so well done. I saw one of the bagleys go for $71 in the blue seed. :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...