FrogAddict Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I like to say I don't need fancy paint jobs, I just need Em to catch fish but the truth is, I'd love to have the talent and patience but I don't. What I do have is complete enjoyment of the journey! I was going to burn down my garage but it's attached to the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 A lot of folks say that fancy paint jobs only catch fishermen. All I have to say is I hope so. Otherwise, none of us would ever sell a bait. So the next time anyone says that they don't get caught by baits..... tellem to look in their tackle box. There was something about every bait that I have bought that caught me. From a crankbait down to a worm. As a baitmaker you have to appeal to the fishermen as well as the fish. It is all part of the game. So my question is to you guys is..... how well do you play it? Crankbaitmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 A lot of folks say that fancy paint jobs only catch fishermen. All I have to say is I hope so. Otherwise, none of us would ever sell a bait. So the next time anyone says that they don't get caught by baits..... tellem to look in their tackle box. There was something about every bait that I have bought that caught me. From a crankbait down to a worm. As a baitmaker you have to appeal to the fishermen as well as the fish. It is all part of the game. So my question is to you guys is..... how well do you play it? Crankbaitmaker Very well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking 56 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 For me, I've found that the same paint scheme doesn't catch fish on all my lures. Perch patterns whether yellow belly or orange or white for example seem to catch more fish on my lipped baits than on my gliders. So if someone's interested in one of my gliders, I'm honest by telling them, perch has never produced on that specific lure. And the opposite holds true for my lipped baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) CustomBaits4You, Yes, I remember that lure. The morning of the day it ended the price was at $30. After lunch it was over $50 and I thought..."NUTS"!! I stopped selling on Ebay because they seem to care more for the buyers than the sellers. I had a couple non-paying bidders that I reported and they did nothing to 'em. Plus...the fees are outrageous. Edited January 19, 2015 by saltshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomBaits4You Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 That was incredible. Ive never seem a custom crankbait excluding wiggle warts and musky lures go that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Yeah, especially considering it was a $5 lure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Moreau Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Lol I don't know why im even commenting on what's turned into a pissing match.... I feel that color is important but in a lesser degree than other key factors. Some days it can be a deciding factor no doubt. But I have caught fish on sealed wood baits that are un painted and resin baits straight from the mold. In fact I have not painted my prototype baits for the last few years. I fish em naked and they are usually my go to baits even when I have painted the predecessor baits that have come after the first prototype. My buddies all make fun of me for not painting them and at first accused me of being lazy....Most now ask for unpainted versions!!! Hughesy I just wanted to say.........you da man!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Lol I don't know why im even commenting on what's turned into a pissing match.... I feel that color is important but in a lesser degree than other key factors. Some days it can be a deciding factor no doubt. But I have caught fish on sealed wood baits that are un painted and resin baits straight from the mold. In fact I have not painted my prototype baits for the last few years. I fish em naked and they are usually my go to baits even when I have painted the predecessor baits that have come after the first prototype. My buddies all make fun of me for not painting them and at first accused me of being lazy....Most now ask for unpainted versions!!! Hughesy I just wanted to say.........you da man!!! Naked!!!! Oh no.... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 "Lol I don't know why im even commenting on what's turned into a pissing match...." Probably because you have an opinion and you just have to spit it out like the rest of us. "But I have caught fish on sealed wood baits that are un painted and resin baits straight from the mold." Maybe they were just the right color. No one has been rude. No one has been nasty. It's all just food for thought brother. And in my opinion....... that is what forums are all about. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 It goes back to what I originally posted....selling, post your plain natural baits on any auction site and see how they do compared to any of the fellas doing the image/paint thing and I believe it will become very clear rather quickly why they do it...The evolution of the industry is heading that direction, soon every pkg in walmart will have that type of look IMO...so at the end of the day we are still left with the niche market that will still be there of a hand built , hand tuned and tweaked bait that so many of the better anglers are actually looking for and precisely why so many are on sites like this looking for lil tidbits to make their baits even that much better...is it in the paint job?...not in my opinion but damn if ya wanna sell some...best do it...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Moreau Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 "Lol I don't know why im even commenting on what's turned into a pissing match...." Probably because you have an opinion and you just have to spit it out like the rest of us. "But I have caught fish on sealed wood baits that are un painted and resin baits straight from the mold." Maybe they were just the right color. No one has been rude. No one has been nasty. It's all just food for thought brother. And in my opinion....... that is what forums are all about. Skeeter Ya Skeets you know what they say...opinions are like ....uhh nevermind! In all honesty I agree with you. Friendly banter is good and that is what this place is about. There were some comments early that I didn't agree with and this thread to me kinda took a side track. that's all I was referring to. Carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Ya Skeets you know what they say...opinions are like ....uhh nevermind! In all honesty I agree with you. Friendly banter is good and that is what this place is about. There were some comments early that I didn't agree with and this thread to me kinda took a side track. that's all I was referring to. Carry on! If your fish are eating naked lures they must be preverted! I've caught fish on unpainted, white PVC lures, while I was testing them. They were white, so that is probably why. Of course, I'd love to think it was because of a genius design and build, and a great action and retrieve, but that is probably not it. If I were building to sell, I'd worry a heck of a lot more about my paint jobs, because appearance and detail are so important to fishermen. I don't think the fish care nearly as much. Edited January 22, 2015 by mark poulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Mark, it's them Cali fish...they're different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I agree totally with what Sonoman said...and his reasoning is precisely why I do it the way I do. If I truly considered myself an "artist"....I still don't think I'd be able to compete with imagery. In fact, I know I wouldn't...I've tried. I would think that most buyers would be able to tell the difference between a "custom painted" lure and one that involves some type of imagery. I've had painters and accomplished fishermen alike ask me if mine are "custom painted". To me, I must be doing something right if they have to ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 There were some comments early that I didn't agree with and this thread to me kinda took a side track. that's all I was referring to. You are right Matt. There are times when we loose sight of the actual question and it happened here. Good catch. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Stan I'd love to see what you do married to some of these fellas custom tweaked balsas, I imagine those lures would be quite valuable .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Stan I'd love to see what you do married to some of these fellas custom tweaked balsas, OK.... what the heck does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) LOL! Me too, Skeet. I'm already married. Edited January 22, 2015 by saltshaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilverFox Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm still reading. If your comment is directed at me and my comments about his basic paints then undoubtedly you're missing what I'm talking about. I'm not gonna sugar coat my opinion of a paint job. I never said they were bad... just basic stuff we all do. I never commented about his history of working on baits for companies. I have no opinion of that. I am speaking directly about our basic paint jobs vs these highly detailed stenciled and foiled image baits. There is no comparison in my opinion. No offense to hughley or anyone else on here... just my thoughts. I don't expect all to agree with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Point taken. Skeeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomBaits4You Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ive been selling a few photofinish baits with fairly good results. I feel like I must be doing somthing wrong compared to Saltshaker... On a 1.5 blank my best was 12.50 and i did a lucky craft and got 22.50. Decent but nothing compared to Saltshaker. Whats the secret, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 LOL, c'mon now fellas... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekflip1 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I just started painting my own crankbaits, and everything is going pretty well. I do have one question: my paint room is set up in my basement. The room is quite large, but has windows that do not open. I was told by a friend that as long as I have a fan circulating the air around my work space I should be OK. Would you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltshaker Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 tekflip, I guess that would depend on what is floating around in that air. Createx? Maybe. An automotive urethane....NOT ME!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
