TrophyFishR Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Cougarftd, Could you post a PlastiDip bait as well? If yall already have them in the gallery, just point me in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Here's one, Send me your email address...I will let you look in my shutterfly account if you want to see more. Edited December 10, 2014 by Cougarftd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Word of caution, I dipped a couple of baits all the way up on the diving bills without thinking. When they dried the line tie was locked in the solarez!! LOL No way to free them up, two plugs in the wastebasket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyFishR Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Word of caution, I dipped a couple of baits all the way up on the diving bills without thinking. When they dried the line tie was locked in the solarez!! LOL No way to free them up, two plugs in the wastebasket! uh oh, Im intending to use this on wiggle warts with a painted bill. Am I making a mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) I actually waited until I found Solarez before I tried painted bills. I did it once with urethane, and it peeled. I've used it on them now, and, as long as you make sure the line tie and hook hanger holes are clear before you cure it, you're good to go. I have been able to clean out hook hanger holes afterwards, with an exacto knife, and it's not that bad. The line tie hole is harder to clean out, so try and be sure it's clear. You have plenty of working time before you start curing it, so try and make sure the holes are clear. I hold the lure by the rear hook hanger wire with a pair of hemostats to dip it, then swap to a paper clip hanger to let it hang and drip back into my jug. I don't want the material to be too think on the painted bill. I make sure the wire eyes are all clear before I cure it. I grab the belly hanger with the hemostats and swap the line tie hanger out with the bent wire in my picture to suspend the lure in the light box. By the time I've done the swapping out of wires, the line tie hole is usually clear, anyway. Here's a pic of a wart with a painted bill and Solarez. It has caught fish. http://www.tackleunderground.com/community/gallery/image/13346-20140518-104501-resized/ Edited December 10, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Cougarftd, Could you post a PlastiDip bait as well? If yall already have them in the gallery, just point me in the right direction. I used Liquid Tape by Performix, a spray-on insulation (thank you Nathan) to get a soft, tough coating on a trout S Waver. I wanted to try and duplicate Butch Brown's soft feel without losing the underlying paint scheme. It worked better than I thought possible. One spray coat was tough, durable, soft, and I could still see through to the paint scheme below. Here's two pics, with the trout bait between an original finish baby bass and a PVC bait I'm working on, so you can, hopefully, see how it looks: Edited December 10, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I wasn't going to say anything, but.................... Mark, I bet if you looked in there hard enough you might find an ex wife or two. I keep a can of wasp and hornet spray on the ready for that, just in case. It shoots 20'+, so I don't even have to get near them again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyFishR Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 If i attempt to spray the lip of a wiggle wart with plasti dip, will it be a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I would guess the softer textured face would affect the action of the lure, but I'd be totally guessing. I don't see how a softer finish on a bottom-grinding small bait like a wart would hold up, or be a benefit. If you really want the softer texture, why not coat the entire wart first with Solarez, UV cure it, and then hold it by the lip in your gloved hand, using your thumb as a mask, and spray the body only? That way you'll get the protection of the Solarez on the lip and the entire lure, and the softer texture of the stuff I use, Liquid Tape, on the body, which is what the fish will bite. Personally I wouldn't worry about the texture on a small crank like a wart. It's typically moving and bumping so quickly and erratically that the fish commits and eats it, without worrying about how it feels. Otherwise, no crank would ever get bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyFishR Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I would guess the softer textured face would affect the action of the lure, but I'd be totally guessing. I don't see how a softer finish on a bottom-grinding small bait like a wart would hold up, or be a benefit. If you really want the softer texture, why not coat the entire wart first with Solarez, UV cure it, and then hold it by the lip in your gloved hand, using your thumb as a mask, and spray the body only? That way you'll get the protection of the Solarez on the lip and the entire lure, and the softer texture of the stuff I use, Liquid Tape, on the body, which is what the fish will bite. Personally I wouldn't worry about the texture on a small crank like a wart. It's typically moving and bumping so quickly and erratically that the fish commits and eats it, without worrying about how it feels. Otherwise, no crank would ever get bit. essentially, I just need a matte finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyFishR Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mark, which UV lamp should I get for solarez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarftd Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 If i attempt to spray the lip of a wiggle wart with plasti dip, will it be a problem? No it won't be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I got my 36 watt black UV nail light here: http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=uv+nails+lamp&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=19798044981&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1898555512693468922&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_80h6dbeqo5_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyFishR Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 the short term solution might be PlastiDip, since I need to clearcoat 2 baits tonight. In the long run, Solarez looks promising, but I have to buy the resin & UV light. So the startup is more expensive. Im pretty excited about both prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpalinsk Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 When I started using Solarez, whether I dipped or brushed on the Solarez, they would eventually end up on my turner. I setup a table outside and would take the turner there and let the turn for 15-20 minutes. They always came out with more of a matte type finish which wasn't desirable. I like a glossier look. I've since bought a UV nail light ($25 on Amazon) and followed a procedure previously posted on this sight. 1. Stir the Solarez real well 2. Apply the Solarez (I brush it on mostly these days) 3. Place on lure turner for a least 10 minutes to level out 4. Then three rounds of 1 minute on one minute off in the UV nail light box This proceed results in fairly high gloss result. You might just need to cure it in the sun to a get more of a matte finish. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old1ncal Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have been using Solarez with excellent results. For a Gloss finish on the top coat, after curing, I use 1000 grit Wet or Dry and scuff the entire surface of the bait. Then, wash it off to get the dust off. If i want Matte, I stop there. If I want gloss, I then take the sanded bait and apply a small amount of McGuire's #3 to a lambs wool buffing wheel in my drill press. In less than a couple of minutes, I have an extremely high gloss finish that is very tough. I have also found that i can get some great effects with it applied as a sealer on raw wood. One trick is to wash the lure down with denatured alcohol after a coat of Solarez. The next coat of paint will give you a "micro-spotted" finish. Not sure why, but it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) Glad to hear it works so well for you on wood. Maybe the resin absorbs a little of the alcohol, and it's released when you heat set the paint. Just a guess. I'm no expert on denatured alcohol...I'm more familiar with the other kind. Hahaha Edited December 12, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeee Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the buffing idea Old1ncal I will give it a try, maybe it will help to speed up my production. I really like Solarez, but I can't sell lures to my customers that are matte, so I have been coating with Etex which takes 4ever to do four coats. Are you brushing on the Solarez or dipping? Mark Maybe you can try regular alcohol 1 shot on the lure 1 shot for you repeat until finished LOL Edited December 12, 2014 by Jdeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyFishR Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) I have been coating with Etex which takes 4ever to do four coats. Just curious, why 4 coats of Etex? I only use 1 coat & it still takes forever, but 4? Man that would take me about 2 weeks. Edited December 12, 2014 by ccroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeee Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I layer different things on each coat, glitter, paints and sometimes foils to get 3d effects. I can take up to a week and a bit. They are big baits up to 10 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I get the 3D effect after the third shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeee Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 LOL Mark Keep going you will eventually finish all the lures. 1 shot for me 1shot lure 1shoooot meeee 1chooot luuuuuuury 1/:-:/:;-: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 LOL Mark Keep going you will eventually finish all the lures. 1 shot for me 1shot lure 1shoooot meeee 1chooot luuuuuuury 1/:-:/:;-: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonister Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 Can anyone post a link to the exact solarez product everyone uses? i cant seem to find it on the site, thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 http://solarez.com/products/low-voc-dual-cure-polyester-resin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
