Stock's Lures Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Does anyone know where to buy inserts for line thru swimbaits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Bass tackle has them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Bass tackle has them I couldn't find them on their site. Where are they located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stock's Lures Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I could not find them on their site either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 They may no longer sell them, I know they used too. Sorry about that! I know Del-Mart sells inserts for their Chub E swimbait, don't know whether or not those will work with your mold or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Dels inserts are aluminium so they are not as heavy as the old Basstackle ones. You might want to check with bobstackle and see if he has them. He has the older molds that use those inserts too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stock's Lures Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Thanks, dels won't work for me I will have to improvise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Try and call Bass tackle and Bob's tackle shack and see if they can get you any. Other than that, you might be out of luck:/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think Bob La Londe may have made a mold for inserts. Maybe he will jump in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 In the past, I've used hollow lead wire, and hollow mojo sinkers. Both should be coated before you pour, because the lead oxidizes and turns white over time. Even some of the commercially available thru-line swimbaits have that problem. One reason I stopped using the lead is I never found a coating that worked. As I type this I realize I never tried brush on super glue as a coating. Hmmmm.... Neither of those things have the anchoring ridges that help hold the insert in place. I tried a few wraps of braid, anchored with super glue, and that gave it more grip, but it wasn't anywhere near as good as the original inserts. If you take your time, I'm sure you could build the braid up taller. I was in too big a hurry. Surprise! The upside to using the lead wire was I could make it as long as I wanted, to get a heavier insert and get my bait to swim more level at higher speeds. I could even bend it to follow the belly of the bait and keep it lower in the mold. The longer wire moved the hook back farther in the bait, too, which isn't necessarily bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I file some grooves on the Mojo to give the plastic something to hold on to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I file some grooves on the Mojo to give the plastic something to hold on to That's too smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I have a Mazak cnc lathe that id used to make you some . but im booked intill mid January I need to know what size you want.... length ,od.id I could do a quick 25 if that helps....pm me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks fishon, but I'm going to try and make the mojo sinker-type lead work for now. Erick, I was thinking I might use egg sinkers, strung together on a piece of wire to get the weight and location I want. The plastic should hold them once it's cooled, because of their shape, and that way I can move the weights to where I need them. Now that I think of it, I'll probably have to ream the hole bigger and use a small plastic tube instead of a wire, to get a durable hole that's big enough to thread my line through. Hmmmm.....another challenge! Edited December 11, 2014 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stock's Lures Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I am most likely going to use the mojo weight ideas!! Thanks everyone!! I am most likely going to use the mojo weight ideas!! Thanks everyone!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Thanks Bob. I'll try those options. I had tried nail polish, and that was a huge failure, at least the red. Over a month the red had turned the entire 6" swimbait red! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretcher66 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I don't know if this would work if you clipped the swivel off. Just a thought. http://www.basspro.com/Offshore-Angler-Swivel-Sleeves/product/4582/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Do-it has a "Lure Body" mold LB-5-A that makes lure bodies for in line spinners, I'll bet that would work. Lots of guys has that mold; probably find someone to make you a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflexionSwimbaits Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I don't want to give too much info away here but I literally spent a year trying to find a product that would work well as an insert. We mainly use the 605 line through mold at Reflexion and started out with the inserts Basstackle made. I never liked how they would pop out of the nose after only a little use. I'm not kidding when I say I tried 15 different kinds of materials ranging from powder coated lead to aluminum rivets with varying degrees of success. I don't want to give away what we use now but one of the best things I found to work before landing on the insert we currently use was brass or nickel bullet weights in 1/4 or 3/8 ounces. We actually coat ours with a clear paint type material that helps the plastic stick to the metal better but if you reverse the weight (concave end facing upwards towards the nose) there is enough resistance from the plastic on the round concave end of the weight to keep it in place through multiple hooksets. I'd suggest using a split ring on the treble underneath also - keeps the hook eye from pulling into the cavity and pushing the weight up and out of the nose. Worked well for us for a long time! And not sure why my computer corrected "push out" to "Plaster of Paris" but it did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflexionSwimbaits Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 We drilled the small hole out with a 7/64" bit to make the hole in the middle of the weight wider to accommodate the insert rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 why not just knurl the od when manufacturing the insert..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 why not just knurl the od when manufacturing the insert..? If you mean the cross hatch pattern that's on tool handles, it won't hold on the hookset. Soft plastic is just that...soft. Even the inserts with large raised ridges pull out eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor1595 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Anybody know why Basstackle quit selling their inserts? Was it part of the split with Bob? If so will Bob be offering the inserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Why don't you ask Bob? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflexionSwimbaits Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 why not just knurl the od when manufacturing the insert..? The way we create ours now is much simpler than this option and more effective - and it stays in the bait very well. Hard to sell a premium swimbait when the insert tears out of the lure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...