rhersh Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Has anyone tried this product? I just seen it on youtube and was curious. Here is the youtube site, you can copy and paste it I don't know how else to put it up on here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OavCzT6Z&feature=em-subs_digestRik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Okay! I don't know how to put the link on here, so just go to youtube and search alumi-uv and it will come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Seems like I remember someone saying a while ago that Alumilite was working on a UV cured coating. This must be it. At the time it was not available for sale as they were still testing it. Have you looked at their website to see if it's available yet? I'd like to know if there's any difference between this stuff and Solarez. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I just check out their web site. They are proud of the stuff and I realize that it is not cheap to develop things. They have a bottle .25 lb for $19.00 and a 2 lb. can that looks to be 1Qt. for $90.00. I guess I have to wait and see how it works for others and I get back to doing more painting before I can justify it for myself. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I am always afraid of products, when the link to the Material safety sheet does not work!!!!!!!! A lot more expensive than Solarez WOW Edited December 13, 2014 by Jdeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I believe this stuff is suppose to have a high gloss finish and is suppose to be able to be cured with a wide varity of UV lights..but it is very pricey!!..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 It is very glossy, very clear, very forgiving of different UV lights, and yes, a bit pricey. Nevertheless, it goes a long ways and is way tougher. I post on another thread just started regarding this stuff, so I won't go into great detail, but I was one of their testers and I prefer this stuff to all other lure clear top coats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhersh Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 It is very glossy, very clear, very forgiving of different UV lights, and yes, a bit pricey. Nevertheless, it goes a long ways and is way tougher. I post on another thread just started regarding this stuff, so I won't go into great detail, but I was one of their testers and I prefer this stuff to all other lure clear top coats. I just found your other thread on this. I did do a search for this before I started this tread and found nothing on it. Sorry for making a double thread on the same subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Threads start so fast that you cannot help but start double threads at times. Don't worry about it, you did great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 MSDS sheet is now up and working. Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 MSDS sheet is now up and working. Hope it helps. How about a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeee Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Here you go Mark http://www.alumilite.com/PDFs/MSDS/Alumi-UV.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass100 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Wow, I just looked at the storage part of the msds sheet and I couldn't use it. It doesn't like cold weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Thanks Jdeee. I don't usually read the msds sheets because, if I did, I would be afraid to use anything. Hahaha When I finish my Solarez, I'll consider it, but that will be a while from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 bass100, my Solarez gelled up when it got cold to. Both can be slowly heated to bring them back to life. Thanks Jdeee for getting the link for Mark. I was at work all day and did not get a chance to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 #1 How would compare it to Etex #2 Will it be as glossy as Etex and have the same look as far as depth on lure and would it hold up to that toothy monster MR Musky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 The sample that Mike from Alumilite had me try for him was much tougher then Etex. It was not as flexible, or dentable, but it had some flex to it. Etex can be applied thick or thin so the depth depends on the thickness you want to give that depth look. AlumiliteUV will do the same, but it might take more coats. The difference is that Etex can take 12 to 18 hours between coats but the UV takes seconds to minutes, depending on your light source. I repainted and coated a lure for a soldier that contacted me on the site and I used the AlumiliteUV that I had. Even I was shocked at how glossy and deep the finish was on the lure I did for him, especially on the black and chartreuse colors. I used the sample AlumiliteUV on Pike and Tiger Musky (cross between Pike and Musky) and the coat held up quite well. Larry Dahlberg, on his show "Hunt for Big Fish" has shown the use of the Alumilite UV on many of his Muskie and Wolf Fish lures and has shown them to hold up extremely well. I still use Etex for some applications, so I am not putting it down at all, but I do have a comparisons from experience. Mike emailed me and told me that the stuff I used is not even close to the quality of the stuff he is now selling. I look forward myself to trying the new stuff as soon as it gets to me in the mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Any chance of the price coming down in the future? At $90 a quart it is a bit pricey. Especially for hobby builders that aren't pressed for time. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskyGary Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I would like to see it in a pint size can, which would put the price down so most of us could afford to try it. If it turns out to be really great, maybe buy the quart size them for my good baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I cannot promise anything, but I will put a bug into Mikes ear and see if a pint size can be in the future. Personally, I would also like to see some UV proof "dip tubes" so we can dip longer lures without the need for huge size cans. Please let me know what you would like and I will ask him. You guys can also call him on the contact number shown on the same link already given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Anglinarcher After the New Year I will order some and see for myself. One of the draw backs for me is that it takes too long to cure Etex and in the more humid summer it is worse since I do this in my basement and use a hot box to help it cure. The room that I was going use to make a new box can be made into a UV box instead and quickly be ready for the hooks. One more question is it still a epoxy coating. Thanks Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFischer Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Looks like another good option. Hi Anglinarcher, do you know if anything was added to prevent yellowing? Or did you get a chance to test a bait left in direct sunlight for a significant time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglinarcher Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Reven, The official chemical composition is called an "organic polymer compound". Aliphatic Acrylate Polymer is the actual chemical, but the specific nature of the chemical is of course a secret, and I don't have a top secret clearance. LOL It is, therefore, not an epoxy like Etex or D2T, not is it a polyester like Solarez. By nature, epoxies are two part and cure to form a bond. Some new epoxies are single part with a catalyst in them that cures from something already in the air, or water, or...... One example is epoxy wall paint that does not cure in the can but cures when exposed to the air once painted. This stuff does bond to surfaces like an Epoxy would, but if it cannot get exposure to UV, it does not cure. So.......... I am not quite sure if it meets the definition of an epoxy or not. BigFischer, The test sample I used did not yellow in the year I had it. Before I moved from Washington State to Louisiana, I had a thin sheet I made by pouring it in a thin layer in a Silicone plate and curing it in the sun. I hung it in the sun to see what would happen, like get brittle or yellow or crack or ..... It held up very well. I don't know if I still have it now that I moved, I have not got my man-cave put back together, but, if I find it, I will take a photo on white paper. So far, unlike epoxies, there has not been any need to put a non yellowing agent in it. In fact, the reason that epoxies yellow with age is frequently UV damage. In this case, UV does not damage it, it is a requirement to cure it. Raven, I guess it this respect, it is like an epoxy........ but the catalyst cures by reacting with UV light. In that same note, I guess the polyester resin of Solarez is also an epoxy. Not quite sure how to answer this one...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenlures Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Anglinarcher You answered well Thank You. I will, like I said after the first of the year I will order a small bottle, The biggest problem is the price, but that will come down in time. The more lure makers use it the more we will find about it. Again Thanks Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollinfish Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 Doe the Alumilite UV epoxy cure faster with higher wavelengths of UV Lightbulbs? Example, if you get a 405nm bulb vs a 365nm bulb, does the 405nm cure faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...