SNOWMAN CUSTOM BAITS Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 This is a gill raker crawdad colored worm I need to replicate. They quit making this color 10 or 15 years ago. I don't have very many colors to chose from so I'm sure I will have to order some colors to make that orangeish gold colored bottom. Any ideas for a recipe to make that color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Is it black on top or a dark green pumpkin? For the bottom I would try some orange with a couple drops of pumpkinseed or brown and then I would throw in some gold pearl or copper pearl, hard to tell from just the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWMAN CUSTOM BAITS Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Top is black. I was looking at some pearls on the spike it website and saw a pearl that looked pretty close on its own. I don't own any pearls but I think it's time to order a few. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 It sort of looks like a color on a laminate bait my son and I did a while back. This is a Copper hi lite and it looks close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWMAN CUSTOM BAITS Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yes it does where did you get the copper hi lites at? I found some copper pearl powder but haven't seen any copper hi lites. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLuvin175 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Snow, When trying to match a color one of the first things I do is a "bleed" test. Pour a "white" chip out of Plastisol, let cool then lay your bait on it, in this case belly side on the chip. Check back in about 2-8 hours or so to see if any color bleed onto the white. If so you know you are dealing with a dye. If no bleed then you are dealing with a pigment (there is a difference between the two). In this case your original sample is probably has dye in it, which I usually try to avoid if possible. It is hard to tell from the picture but it looks a little too orange for Copper Pearl to make an accetable match by itself. Here is a sample of Amber 114 colorant and Copper Pearl 142 from LureWorks that would be a good non-bleed replacement that I think you would be happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWMAN CUSTOM BAITS Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 McLuvin you da man. I understand about the bleeding you speak of. I wondered why some worms would bleed(like cotton candy charteuse tail,if one of the worms in the pack was the opposite of the others they will bleed chartreuse on the whole worm) and others won't. I'm sure these worms have dye in them. These worms are probably 15 years old and I've changed the bag twice and the whole inside of the bag is orange. I will test this afternoon to make sure and try your suggestions. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLuvin175 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Dyes are a double edged sword. They give you the clearest most transparent beautiful colors you can imagine....with the draw back that they bleed. There is a reason the "back" of the original sample bait is black. The dye has bled into that black a long time ago, you just cant see it. Same principle goes for a color like Tequila Sunrise. You have some red dye with Hi-lite Blue in the belly and a black back. That's virtually the only way you can get away with using a dye in a laminate. The color combination I recommended wont be as beautiful as your original, since it is pigment based, but I think it will pass muster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yes it does where did you get the copper hi lites at? I found some copper pearl powder but haven't seen any copper hi lites. Thanks I bet it's that copper Pearl powder Snowman. I have some hi lites and I also have that copper Pearl. I'm on the road and not where I can put my hands on it or I would let you know and give you the recipe. I'll be home tomorrow if you would like to have it and can wait that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWMAN CUSTOM BAITS Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yes sir there is only one place I use these worms. This weekend is the first time I fished there in about 12 years and the first fish I caught was almost 7lbs so it would will be a couple weeks before I go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
