tsic Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Why do I have so much trouble keeping my white from yellowing Today I got one shot on a swim bait and the second shot was already turning and after reheating in micro it gets even darker. Any one know how to keep it white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Try MF plastisol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassinfool Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Heat stabilizer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I add a couple of drops of heat stabilizer to a cup of plastic, and then heat it up to 350 to get it to convert. Then I add my white pigment, and pour at 330+-. I try never to heat it past that, and it seems to stay white longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'm wondering if maybe you're overheating? Because you should be able to get more than one shot with ANY brand of plastic. If not, then yeah.......add a little heat stabilizer to your mix and you should be good. One thing to keep in mind is that stuff goes a long way. Usually about an ounce per gallon of plastic is enough. Most places that sell plastisol will also offer heat stabilizer. Just give 'em a call and ask. Good luck! I add a couple of drops of heat stabilizer to a cup of plastic, and then heat it up to 350 to get it to convert. Then I add my white pigment, and pour at 330+-. I try never to heat it past that, and it seems to stay white longer. Sorry, Mark. You beat me to it! LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 A digital thermometer has been a crucial tool for me to keep from burning my plastic. They are available online, and they are not expensive, especially if they keep you from scorching/wasting plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I use the new Do-it Essential series plastic and use the "Mo Milk" recipe. http://custombaits.com/index.php?topic=4768.0 I'll never make "white" any other way now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsic Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I have some heat stabilizer will try it Will also try it at 330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I use the new Do-it Essential series plastic and use the "Mo Milk" recipe. http://custombaits.com/index.php?topic=4768.0 I'll never make "white" any other way now! If I read that right, he only adds violet hilite, and gets that great color. No white pigment at all??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyc14 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 As said heat stabilizer will help you can also try heating for 15 to 30 seconds and stirring in between to help keep it from burning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 If I read that right, he only adds violet hilite, and gets that great color. No white pigment at all??? That's it! Only the hilite....It's amazing. The new Essentials plastic is really heat tolerant so you can do multiple reheats to 360 without any yellowing. I've been happy with MF plastic also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsic Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I have been using Do-it plastic for a couple of years now, Is there any difference in their essentials plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBehr Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 It is more heat tolerant and more elastic....tougher.Still very clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are hilite powders the same as perl powders that I can get at my local art supply shop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are hilite powders the same as perl powders that I can get at my local art supply shop? Absolutely not! 2 completely different products, and I wouldn't recommend adding any art shop supplies to plastic. Just my 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Oops to late , been using them the from the start. Trade names and what it is, don't always match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Are hilite powders the same as perl powders that I can get at my local art supply shop? If it is powder it is probably ok. Paste might be a problem. Can some one explain how the high lite would replace white? Its more of a bone or off white. All of my customers would not accept that for white. If you have some older plastic it sometimes yellows by itself not from overheating. Make sure when you get a new container of plastic you mix it well everytime you use it so the last of it does not have a lot of hardener which yellows faster than softer stuff. This goes for anyone's plastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMc1 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Can some one explain how the high lite would replace white? Its more of a bone or off white. All of my customers would not accept that for white. I have several that will return anything other than a very bright white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DaBehr Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Not a "bright white" ...it's actually a little more white than the pic...but you get the idea Edited February 28, 2015 by DaBehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmouthaholic Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 If it is powder it is probably ok. Paste might be a problem. Can some one explain how the high lite would replace white? Its more of a bone or off white. All of my customers would not accept that for white. If you have some older plastic it sometimes yellows by itself not from overheating. Make sure when you get a new container of plastic you mix it well everytime you use it so the last of it does not have a lot of hardener which yellows faster than softer stuff. This goes for anyone's plastic. Agree 100%-Highlight is not a base color-various highlights are added to white for an effect adding an iridescent color or glimmer to white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsic Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Unbelievable, I got my Hyper hi-lite today ordered it in blue pearl shot some swim baits, tubes, and drop shot worms It is just like DaBehr said a nice white with blue which changes position depending which on how you move it I used 4oz plastic and 1/8tsp hi-lite my cell doesn't take very good pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
