Mbirdsley Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I dont really know where to put this question but, since I hang out on jig forum the most, ill post it here. I bought one package of unpainted 4/0 stand up football jigs and owner shakey head jigs from barlows. I bought them really just to fill out a small order so i didnt get charged the small order fee. I ve never used them before to fish but always wanted too. I dont know what color. I painted two of each black and Green pumkin. Should you try and match the color of the worm or plastic that you are useing? or is black and green pumkin a good color. what kind of plastic do you throw on these suckers. consensus on the internet seems to be senko type worms. how about a craw fish? thanks to archer1 i have plenty of soft plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbirdsley Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I dont really know where to put this question but, since I hang out on jig forum the most, ill post it here. I bought one package of unpainted 4/0 stand up football jigs and owner shakey head jigs from barlows. I bought them really just to fill out a small order so i didnt get charged the small order fee. I ve never used them before to fish but always wanted too. I dont know what color. I painted two of each black and Green pumkin. Should you try and match the color of the worm or plastic that you are useing? or is black and green pumkin a good color. what kind of plastic do you throw on these suckers. consensus on the internet seems to be senko type worms. how about a craw fish? thanks to archer1 i have plenty of soft plastic should be soft plastic from archery1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 The three main colors that I throw are blk/blue, grn pumpkin and brown. You can throw in a mix of all black, watermelon and brown /orange. I have also thrown blk/red, blk/purple and white as far as jig colors go. When my standards don't work I start throwing the other colors. As far as plastics go. I will always have a Netbait paca chunk (crawfish bait) a sweet beaver and/or a twin tail grub on any one jig. This is my go-to bait all of the time. All of these can be used on a stand-up football jig. I use a senko type bait on a shakey head. There are no rules when it comes to getting a fish to bite. Try to find a pattern for the day and let the fish tell you what they want. Experimenting is sometimes the key to putting fish in the boat. There will be a lot of opinions on what to use, as everyone has their favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I can't help you with the football jigs because I don't know what weight you have, a 1/4oz shaky football jig is going to use a different soft plastic than a 3/4oz standard football jig. The shaky head range is normally 1/16oz to 1/2oz and what you use those with most of the time is a finesse worm but a lot of guys like Senko type baits like the Hags Tornado but I prefer finesse worms in 4.5" to 6". You can use a craw if you want to as there isn't any rule on what you put on a shaky head but some baits work better with that presentation than others and it more of an open water presentation so craws aren't normally seen in that type of situation but a craw worm like the Berkley power craw does work as I saw a friend of mine have success with it on a shaky head and now I occasionally use it as well. Colors matter when they matter but the jig head color itself isn't a big deal, the old Stanley jigs that I liked all came with a black head no matter what the skirt color was and when it comes to shaky heads, I paint mine 2 colors, black and green pumpkin because they will work with any color soft plastic I want to use on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acuna Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I personally don't think the fish care about the color of the jig head that much but I know a lot of fishermen do and if changing up the color of the heads gives you confidence then by all means go for it! Despite the fact that I don't think it makes that much of a difference, I always try to match the color of the jig skirts I tie and on my shakeyheads I am usually using a small straight tailed worm or craw worm. I just do it because I like it. My color choices, primarily, are watermelon with red flake and green pumpkin. Rarely do I vary from those two colors but if I do it is going to be a darker color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbirdsley Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) I personally don't think the fish care about the color of the jig head that much but I know a lot of fishermen do and if changing up the color of the heads gives you confidence then by all means go for it! Despite the fact that I don't think it makes that much of a difference, I always try to match the color of the jig skirts I tie and on my shakeyheads I am usually using a small straight tailed worm or craw worm. I just do it because I like it. My color choices, primarily, are watermelon with red flake and green pumpkin. Rarely do I vary from those two colors but if I do it is going to be a darker color. I personally don't think the fish care about the color of the jig head that much but I know a lot of fishermen do and if changing up the color of the heads gives you confidence then by all means go for it! Despite the fact that I don't think it makes that much of a difference, I always try to match the color of the jig skirts I tie and on my shakeyheads I am usually using a small straight tailed worm or craw worm. I just do it because I like it. My color choices, primarily, are watermelon with red flake and green pumpkin. Rarely do I vary from those two colors but if I do it is going to be a darker color. i didnt think that it did i just didnt want to make a mistake with only a limited number of both. Do you tie hair on your football jigs? Thanks Edited March 19, 2015 by Mbirdsley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbirdsley Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) The three main colors that I throw are blk/blue, grn pumpkin and brown. You can throw in a mix of all black, watermelon and brown /orange. I have also thrown blk/red, blk/purple and white as far as jig colors go. When my standards don't work I start throwing the other colors. As far as plastics go. I will always have a Netbait paca chunk (crawfish bait) a sweet beaver and/or a twin tail grub on any one jig. This is my go-to bait all of the time. All of these can be used on a stand-up football jig. I use a senko type bait on a shakey head. There are no rules when it comes to getting a fish to bite. Try to find a pattern for the day and let the fish tell you what they want. Experimenting is sometimes the key to putting fish in the boat. There will be a lot of opinions on what to use, as everyone has their favorites. thanks for the info on the craws. there are so many out there. I will try the paca craw. theres a assortmant of craws that they sell in Wall Mart in a big plastic plano box for like 12 dollars. i think strike King or somebody similar makes them ever had any expiernce with them. they look intresting Edited March 19, 2015 by Mbirdsley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 thanks for the info on the craws. there are so many out there. I will try the paca craw. theres a assortmant of craws that they sell in Wall Mart in a big plastic plano box for like 12 dollars. i think strike King or somebody similar makes them ever had any expiernce with them. they look intresting There has been a lot of controversy on another site regarding Netbait Paca chunks or craws vs. Strike King Rage Tail Craws. Stating that one is better than the other. Well this is all relevant to the person using it and also who is paying for ad space on the site. Here is "my opinion" and take on this. I have used only the above two products and then some custom made craws. I am partial to Netbait because of cost. Normal price for a 3-3/4" Netbait craw is $3.49 for 9 count. Rage Craws are $5.00 for 7 count. Now I have fished these side by side numerous times, and I didn't see a better catch rate with either. Guys say that the Rage Craw claws have more action and since their baits are compartmentalized in their package, the claws don't get disfigured like they do in a bulk bag. I found this statement untrue. I have almost every color of craws Netbait makes from different years purchased and I have never had an issue with the bulk packaging Netbait has. I love Rage Craws, but for me, it make no sense to pay more for less with the same results. Both are excellent products. I have also used custom poured craws and they as well caught a lot of fish for me. So my advice is to buy a bag of a couple of different brands and find what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbirdsley Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 There has been a lot of controversy on another site regarding Netbait Paca chunks or craws vs. Strike King Rage Tail Craws. Stating that one is better than the other. Well this is all relevant to the person using it and also who is paying for ad space on the site. Here is "my opinion" and take on this. I have used only the above two products and then some custom made craws. I am partial to Netbait because of cost. Normal price for a 3-3/4" Netbait craw is $3.49 for 9 count. Rage Craws are $5.00 for 7 count. Now I have fished these side by side numerous times, and I didn't see a better catch rate with either. Guys say that the Rage Craw claws have more action and since their baits are compartmentalized in their package, the claws don't get disfigured like they do in a bulk bag. I found this statement untrue. I have almost every color of craws Netbait makes from different years purchased and I have never had an issue with the bulk packaging Netbait has. I love Rage Craws, but for me, it make no sense to pay more for less with the same results. Both are excellent products. I have also used custom poured craws and they as well caught a lot of fish for me. So my advice is to buy a bag of a couple of different brands and find what works for you. where do you get the paca craws from. Janns net craft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 where do you get the paca craws from. Janns net craft? If you are looking for Netbait products or Strike King Brands, Bass Pro sells both. Also tackle Warehouse has almost every color you could possibly want on both products, and free shipping over $50. I know my Cabela's doesn't carry Net Bait products, however I do know that Dick's Sporting goods does carry Strike King. If you want to buy on line just go to Tackle Warehouse they will have everything you need plus some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acuna Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) 1. I don't normally tie hair on my jigs. 2. Little craw type trailers work great most of the time. Cadman is correct, both Netbait and SK make good products. I don't think it makes too much of a difference on brand. One day they may want a trailer that really moves, the next something more subtle like a double tail grub or pork trailer. As others have said, experiment on the water and find out what the fish want. The older I get the less I get caught up in the latest and greatest bait and the more focused I become on presentation. Tried and true baits presented correctly in the proper situation gets it done for me. Or don't. Remember we call it fishing and not catching. Enjoy the journey. 3. Tackle Warehouse is great for getting stuff. Edited March 20, 2015 by Acuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bois d'Arc Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 A bare stand up football jig with a Hag's F5 Tornado attached is a good rig for largemouth bass. Colors really depend on lots of variables, but you can't go wrong with the basics (covered in Cadman's comment earlier in this post). When fishing craw type plastic on the standup football jig I usually skirt the jig with something that looks right with the size and color of the craw trailer. Good luck fishing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbirdsley Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 When fishing craw type plastic on the standup football jig I usually skirt the jig with something that looks right with the size and color of the craw trailer. Good luck fishing! what do you mean by skirting the jig? isnt that what the plastic attached to the jig is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bois d'Arc Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 what do you mean by skirting the jig? isnt that what the plastic attached to the jig is? Some standup football jigs have skirts like a casting or flipping jig or a spinnerbait. In that case the plastic worm, craw, etc, is the trailer. Some standup jigs have a screwlock attached and that style uses only a trailer...like the Tornado worm I mentioned in an previous post. Both styles work great at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
