Costume Artist Looking For: Adhesive (Lure Soft Plastics To Cloth), Samples Of Firmness, Fumes Question.

[SkyFishy]

Hello, 

 

I have a few very unusual questions as i'm in the art - costume career. I have tried other brands of silicone for my projects but none are as transparent as the lure liquid plastics. I plan on adding glitter and colorant to get some nice effects and attaching the silicone with an adhesive to standard flat fabric :(fleece for example). I will just list some questions and a few things I am trying to find answers to.

 

* A type of glue for soft plastic as offered in the lures might work as a strong bond against fabrics in general if anything? Have tried: Hot glue and E6000 without success. I assume I need a soft plastic glue. But will it work against fabrics? Can someone experiment with using adhesives against old towels/materials ?

 

* Does anyone offer samples of your cured soft plastics or would it be possible? I would love to see in person the firmness/stretch and transparency of each type of liquid plastic. I am especially interested in all of these as listed: standard, less stretchy, very transparent and also all of which are firmer than standard choices. I don't think that the stretchier than average soft plastics are what i'm looking for. I'm willing to pay for samples.

 

* Should I be aware of any fumes given off by heating up any liquid plastics? What would the precautions be? I work outdoors when cooking but I notice quite the scent when melting this plastic down.

 

* Also, what's the cheapest pour-able silicone out there? I noticed there is a pink/peachy/tan colored silicone on videos and wondered if it's cheaper than the $30+ (shipping included) oomoo 25 from smooth-on that I've been using. I live in USA.

 

I greatly appreciate your time/advice/suggestions, even if just a little help can be given!

Edited May 28, 2015 by SkyFishy

[JRammit]

This is interesting... TU "Halloween edition"... Should b fun!

-For your glue, Spike-It makes a glue called bond coat, made for adhearing plastic to materials that are not plastic (lead, hooks ect.)... Idk about fabric, but i have some and i could try before u buy

-firmness can be adjusted with hardener

-fumes = bad!... But if you are outdoors you should be fine

-Cheap silicon? Let me know if u find that!

[SkyFishy]

This is interesting... TU "Halloween edition"... Should b fun!

-For your glue, Spike-It makes a glue called bond coat, made for adhearing plastic to materials that are not plastic (lead, hooks ect.)... Idk about fabric, but i have some and i could try before u buy

-firmness can be adjusted with hardener

-fumes = bad!... But if you are outdoors you should be fine

-Cheap silicon? Let me know if u find that!

Hahaha yes! Some LED lights behind the soft plastics would be a fun little thing to add to it! I am a professional but keeping this method incredibly secret from anyone besides me

 

Oh goodness, the amount of appreciation would be amazing, could you test out the glue for me?! I'm actually using a very flat surface with the soft plastic to attach to the material. I hope to get just something that will be very durable.

 

I will let you know if I find cheaper silicone for my molds.

[JRammit]

I have some old flat sided jerk baits i made that i didnt like... Ill glue one to an old t-shirt and post results once it dries

[JRammit]

Id say thats a no go... Seemed like the cotton absorbed all the glue off the plastic before it set...

Heres another idea, expose your fabric to the hot plastic before it cools, hot plastic sticks to everything (especially bare hands, in know!)... Maybe if u use a material similar to burlap, you could get the plastic "interwoven" (if thats a word) into your fabric

[SkyFishy]

Id say thats a no go... Seemed like the cotton absorbed all the glue off the plastic before it set...

Heres another idea, expose your fabric to the hot plastic before it cools, hot plastic sticks to everything (especially bare hands, in know!)... Maybe if u use a material similar to burlap, you could get the plastic "interwoven" (if thats a word) into your fabric

Ah yes same thing happened to me with the other glues.

 

Was thinking of adding it when it's still hot, just going to be tricky to get it on fast enough! But probably it should work.

 

(Thanks so much by the way)!

[Travis]

Should be able to use the "hot plastic"  method............. silk screen shirts/plastisol ink.....  

[MonteSS]

You are talking about two different products.

 

Silicon is a two part. Product + hardener. Mixed together a chemical reaction between the two cures it.

 

We use plastisol that we heat. The plastsol we use is like milk and when heated turns clear and thickens slightly. It can be poured into a mold or injected.

 

For large costume pieces it would get rather heavy. 

 

It can be painted or airbrushed

 

It does not smell bad but in confined space can be toxic

[SkyFishy]

You are talking about two different products.

 

Silicon is a two part. Product + hardener. Mixed together a chemical reaction between the two cures it.

 

We use plastisol that we heat. The plastsol we use is like milk and when heated turns clear and thickens slightly. It can be poured into a mold or injected.

 

For large costume pieces it would get rather heavy. 

 

It can be painted or airbrushed

 

It does not smell bad but in confined space can be toxic

Yes I know, I use silicone for the mold itself and the plastisol is what I heat and pour into the silicone mold. My projects using the plastisol are very small and not large

[Frank]

This may sound funny but just heat up what you want to stick to the fabric and hold it till it cools. You guys know what happens when hot plastic get on your clothes, it does not come off. Heat it till it turns runny and press. No glue needed.

[SkyFishy]

This may sound funny but just heat up what you want to stick to the fabric and hold it till it cools. You guys know what happens when hot plastic get on your clothes, it does not come off. Heat it till it turns runny and press. No glue needed.

I was thinking so!