mark poulson Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Well, a year+ ago I bought some of the green/white glo paint and put it on some of my cranks. One, a Yozuri 1/2oz. rattle trap, caught a 6+ one morning, early, but I really haven't had a chance to fish in low light conditions since. This week, I made a hard frog and wanted to make 3D eyes, with a 1/4" diameter by 1/8" deep recess, coated with the green/white glo paint, so the 3D Solarez domes would be back lit and, hopefully, look cool and glo in the dark. I had to use big channel locks to get the paint bottle open, since it had been sitting so long. After I opened it, I did multiple coats inside the eye, and took the lure inside to check it in a dark interior room. It glowed, but not strongly. I was disappointed. When I tried to put the top back on the paint bottle, I found some of the paint had hardened around the opening of the bottle, and I had to use an exacto knife to get it off. It came off like a long strip. On a hunch, I took the strip into the house, and, lo and behold, it blazed like a search light in the dark. I cut a couple of small sections off, curled them up, and tucked them into the eye recess. After I'd made the Solarez domed lenses, I took them back inside, and the eyes glowed, bigtime! So, the paint glows even when it's a dried crust. Even better than the thin coat of paint itself. It is entirely possible that the pigments have settled out of the paint, after having set so long. To be honest, it does seem more runny now than when I first got it. But, either way, my frog has a pair of headlights! And I will be ordering a new bottle. Edited May 30, 2015 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Mark, I like your line of thinking. Would like to see a pic of it in the dark. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 John, I can't seem to capture it with my cellphone camera. When I shut off the flash and take a picture in the dark it comes out black, but I can see the eyes glowing. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 The digital camera sensors are not the same as the human eye. I have noticed when shooting with a remote control, that the image picks up a white dot of the infra red trigger were the human eye can see nothing. This tells me that the sensitivity is shifted towards the IR side of things, making our eyes more effective in the UV range than a cameras. DAve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Mark, that is very strange. Dave, that sounds very plausible though I didn't understand any of it. Today after reading this post. I was at home depot and found a 7 oz can of Rust-Oleum glow in the dark paint it says it will glow up to two hours. I am going to paint some eyes/dots on a piece of PVC and see if my camera will pick it up. Will let you know what happens. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 JB - while you are taking pics, point the TV remote at the camera and take a pic of that. You don't see any light with the naked eye, but the camera should see the IR light. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Mark, with acrylic glow paint it's all about how many glow particles you can get together. I use the stuff on jigging spoons and brush on at least 3 coats as heavy as I can make them with a soft artist's brush, letting each coat dry for a few hours. The total coating when dry is a rubbery 1/16" thick but becomes very durable when topcoated with MCU. I can literally read a newspaper by the greenish white glow they give off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkman Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Mark, with acrylic glow paint it's all about how many glow particles you can get together. I use the stuff on jigging spoons and brush on at least 3 coats as heavy as I can make them with a soft artist's brush, letting each coat dry for a few hours. The total coating when dry is a rubbery 1/16" thick but becomes very durable when topcoated with MCU. I can literally read a newspaper by the greenish white glow they give off. This gives me the idea of putting a few drops of glow paint in a small, round mold to make 3d eyes. Is this paint found at Hobby Lobby/Michaels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Don't know. I bought some at the Glo Nation website, which sells various colors of acrylic latex glow paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Bob, What can I use to thin my Glo Paint, or, more accurately, to redissolve the rubbery stuff when the paint skins over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobP Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Mark, since it's acrylic latex maybe you can use anything you might use on that type paint - but I never tried to dissolve dried latex paint so what do I know? Sounds pretty iffy to me. According to the Glo Nation site, you have to be careful thinning lest the glow particles fall out of suspension. I think that's why the stuff comes in a gel consistency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 if you will be molding 3d eyes why not just get the powder (the stuff the soft plastics guys use), you should be able to load it up to nuclear levels in the epoxy. also the brand Smooth-on has different colors of glow powder. http://www.smooth-on.com/Urethane-Plastic-a/c5_1119_1422/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 These are eyes I painted with the same type paint..and the picture was taken with my IPhone....I hadn't exposed them to much light before the picture & they still shined bright...Nathan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 These are eyes I painted with the same type paint..and the picture was taken with my IPhone....I hadn't exposed them to much light before the picture & they still shined bright...Nathan Not sure what that creature is, but I think I saw it crawl out from under my house last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Not sure what that creature is, but I think I saw it crawl out from under my house last night. It was one of these: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBlaze Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Sure is an ugly little critter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Not sure what that creature is, but I think I saw it crawl out from under my house last night. Ben, What did the doctor say about you mixing that Hootch and medication?..lol..Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 It was one of these:fly stalk eye 2367.jpg Dave, That looks like a trainer for miniature elephants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Ben, What did the doctor say about you mixing that Hootch and medication?..lol..Nathan He said it was OK Nate as long as I shared with him. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkman Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 if you will be molding 3d eyes why not just get the powder (the stuff the soft plastics guys use), you should be able to load it up to nuclear levels in the epoxy. also the brand Smooth-on has different colors of glow powder. http://www.smooth-on.com/Urethane-Plastic-a/c5_1119_1422/index.html Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware of that product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagine_studios Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 This may not be applicable here because all glow style paints and plastics might not work the same, but, my son got some glow in the dark drumsticks and the instructions said they will glow great when "charged" using regular lamp or sunlight, but will really glow brighter and longer when charged with a black light. Maybe this is common knowledge, but it was news to me. We got a portable battery operated 6" black light tube and it works wonders for the amount and time of the glow. I know that's a bit off topic, but might be helpful to charge it with UV before tossing it in the water. Jason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aulrich Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 So I made my first attempt at shootable glow, I used a gel glow paint mixed 1 part paint to 4 parts transparent base(as per the recommendation of the person at the art store) . it seemed to not atomize properly but it would shoot. After three coats if you charged it up and looked at it in the dark it was very splotchy. I am thinking I either add a couple more BB’s and shake the paint for a good long time or toss this batch and with the next batch hit it first with a part or two of reducer to loosen it up first then top up to 4 to 1 with base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I just painted some of my older green/white onto some white and chartreuse chatter bait heads. Two coats each, and I had added some of the glow powder to replace the pigment that had skinned over. The heads glow with a mottled, splotchy effect. I like it. I think it will make them more visible in low light, but not so bright as to be off putting. I topcoated them with clear Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Early morning/low light on Lake Castaic this morning, and a 2+lb largie liked my 3/8 oz. white with green/white glow powder chatterbait. Since the fish are eating small stuff right now, I threw it with just a white-themed skirt and no trailer, or trailer hook. Man, that lake is so pressured right now I was shocked when it bit. I was just throwing along a break to see if it would glow, and, bam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Sooo....I wanted to make a hard frog with big glow eyes, for night/low light conditions (actually, I like making them, and thought making big glow eyes would be fun. But don't tell anyone!) So I made the bait today, using a 5/0 Damiki beast hook, opened a little, for the single hook. Since I was making this black frog to have glow eyes, I made them 7/16" diameter, with a 1/8" recess so I could do Solarez 3D eyes. After I painted the bait with Wicked Black, I painted the insides of the eye recesses with the Glonation green/white, and hit it with the hair dryer, so it would dry quickly and let me recoat faster. Then I thought, what if I add some of the Glonation green/white powder right into the recess, and put a couple of drops of crazy glue onto it to lock it in place? The manuf. says it can be mixed with any clear medium, and crazy glue is clear. So I did, and, voila, it did lock the powder in the eye hole. Once I had done both eyes, I used my Solarez resin to fill the recesses, and was able to create a 3D mounding effect, because the resin has a lot of surface tension. I cured the first one in my nail light box, and then did the other side. Because the eyes are so much larger than the 1/4" eyes I've done in the past, the resin is raised in a more gradual curve, like a magnifying glass lens, instead of the more pronounced bead-like eyes I got in the past. But they are 3D, and stand out from the frog's face almost 1/8". But the best part is they glow like spotlights! Locking the powder with the crazy glue didn't diminish the glow effect at all. In fact, since the powder is pure pigment, more or less, the eyes glow more brightly than any I've ever done with the paint. After I'd taken it inside, to a dark interior bathroom, to check the glow, I dipped the whole bait in Solarez, and cured it in the nail light box. Because the eyes didn't require three or four coats of the glow paint, which dries very slowly, I was able to make, paint, and topcoat the frog today. My daughter says the eyes are cool. Coming from a 20 year old animator, that is high praise, indeed! So I thought I'd share. I'm still trying to figure out how to take pictures in the dark that show the glowing eyes. As soon as I can, I'll post it in the gallery. I just posted two pics in the hard baits gallery. The eye shows in the no-flash pic, but just barely. Edited June 8, 2015 by mark poulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
