Musky0503 Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 How hard is it to tie your own? I already make my own Rods so how difficult would it be? Would it be worth it to tie or easier to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I havnt made any spinners as of yet... But while looking into it I saw a handy skirt tying tool in my janns catalog... Its $15, but it's nothing more than a pointy tube, rubber band over the pointy end, skirt in the hollow end...... Could probably fashion one of these tools out of something laying around the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Hahn Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I havnt made any spinners as of yet... But while looking into it I saw a handy skirt tying tool in my janns catalog... Its $15, but it's nothing more than a pointy tube, rubber band over the pointy end, skirt in the hollow end...... Could probably fashion one of these tools out of something laying around the house I made one out of an old large diameter ballpoint pen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 By making your own you will be able to use any colors you want, plus it gives you options. You can buy collars and make the skirts up and put them on your bait, or you can just tie the loose tabs to your bait. I tie with thread, and I tie with wire but I also use skirt collars as there is a place for them. What I like about colors is if I'm in a small jon boat or someone elses boat, I am limited in the tackle I have, so instead of taking 30 spinnerbaits, I take 6 and then I'll take 2 dozen different color skirts so I can change the color of my bait without using a different bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 How hard is it to tie your own? I already make my own Rods so how difficult would it be? Would it be worth it to tie or easier to buy? I used to tie with thread and now tie with wire. I find wire is faster. However tying with thread, I personally believe you get stronger wraps. Anyway, I have a tutorial on TU somewhere, showing how I hand tie with wire. If you can't find it, PM me your e-mail address, and I will send it to you. I do know lots of guys use nylon quick ties, I personally don't like them as you can't get them tight enough. I also have some skirts made up with silicone collars, if I want to change a skirt on the water. Makes it fast and easy, but hand tying a skirt on is better than anything else from keeping the skirt from sliding down the hook shank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I guess I don't mean skirts as in Spinnerbait skirts more like dressed hooks as in inline spinners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I have a cheap, 15 year old fly tying vice, and do my own dressed trebles. It is easy, and you can tie whatever you want. If you can't find the color feather or material you like, tie on white feathers and use solvent sharpies to color them. Doing it yourself also lets you add some flashabou, or mylar tinsel, and get some really neat, flashy trebles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I guess I don't mean skirts as in Spinnerbait skirts more like dressed hooks as in inline spinners. Well that's a different animal. If you are looking to tie hair, feathers and other material to make a dressed treble, than you should be using thread. It can be tied tighter to hold all that material in and keep it from shifting or pulling out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 As Cadman put it, completely different. You need thread to do your own but with a little practice you can get it down and it will be a lot more cost efficient than buying dressed hooks. I tie a lot of treble hooks for guys, the bass guys like hackle and flash while the trout guys will often have squirrel tail or a little buck tail tied onto their in-line spinner hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I just started making spinners this winter. I got a Hagens wire former for Christmas. I'm not very good at tying dressed hooks yet but mainly because I need more practice. I had a guy give me some squirrel tails that he caught on his trapline and there is some learning curve to it. I think in the long run it's better to learn to tie them yourself. It doesn't take a lot of tools either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venutian_Lures Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Considering how most of the dressed trebles I've seen that you can buy in packs are expensive, it's much more worth it to tie your own. Bucktails aren't too pricey and you can tie tons of dressed trebles from one bucktail. I get mine from self harvested deer and I dye them myself with a hot koolaid bath. You can REALLY customize it if you dye your own, and it only cost's me about 88 cents per tail when I'm done. Also get yourself some 210 denier tying thread and some zap a gap glue and you're rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 How do you start a wrap on a hook with what ever your tieing on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braided Line Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I go thru a lot of skirts. One reason is those little rubber bands get old they just fall a part or a mud fish destroys that puppy in one hit. Bass as well. Fla has got a lot of toothy fish swimming around. Why lose the skirt material because the rubber band goes bye-bye. I bought the "tool" to expand the rubber band. Skirt material as well. Make my own, Still had problems. Then the light went on! I bought some really small telephone ties. Lots of different colors. Since doing that my retention rate is almost 100%. I fish a lot of pad fields. Braider line of course. My spinners and skirts take a pounding. Thank to the "ties'" That problem/cost has all but disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 How do you start a wrap on a hook with what ever your tieing on? Using a thread bobbin, I just wrap back over the tag end of the line a dozen+- times. You can use half hitches, too. The thread usually stays in place, once you get it on to begin with, so there's no need to glue it on to begin with. And then, as you add your feathers, one at a time, and add additional wraps to hold them, it gets more and more solid. When I'm done, I finish off with three half hitches (I can't do the nice finishing knot fly tiers use) and then put a drop of crazy glue onto the threads, with my bobbin still attached and hanging down from the treble. After a minute I cut the thread close with an exacto knife, and it is on, forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) How do you start a wrap on a hook with what ever your tieing on? The same way virtually any fly tie starts. By wrapping thread around the hook shank over the top of itself. Here is a great tutorial on tying on squirrel tail for a dressed treble trout spinner. Youtube is a great resource for this stuff. Check youtube for other ties such as feather trebles for your musky spinners etc. http://<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/djReRqrMPKY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Edited June 12, 2015 by Kasilofchrisn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodtimesfishing Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Check out some utube videos, much easier to SEE how it is done vs. being told how to start your thread. Once you see it done it makes more sense. Google how to tie bucktail trebles, that should help get you going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Go to youtube and type in the search box "Tying a Feathered Treble Hook" , it is basic in how you would go about adding dressings onto a hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Am I the only one who holds the treble by one of the hook bends, so the eye is toward me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasilofchrisn Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Am I the only one who holds the treble by one of the hook bends, so the eye is toward me? No that's how I do it also.I am not sure I could do it the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 not sure how one could do it any other way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I tried it the other way, but the tines of the trebles kept biting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky0503 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) there seems to be multiple way to do this. 1. 2. not only hook postion but tieing. One does loops over the bucktail the other ties off each group of feathers who's to say which is Correct because in the mind of the tier their both correct. I think it just prefreence. Edited June 17, 2015 by Musky0503 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
