Ccfish Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Anyone got any tricks to this? I've been holding them by the eye with needle nose but the powder keeps getting in. I clean it out with a wire but it just looks kinda messy. I know the fish don't care but it's just a craftsmanship thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I do the same, with a pair of old needle nose that one of my sons gave me. It actually has the imprint of the hook eye in it now, from hardened powder that forms around it when I dip into the fluid bath. It's not 100%, mostly because I do it without my glasses, so I'm kinda sloppy, but they work well enough. I dip 50 or so, and hang them on a wire rack as I dip. Once I'm done, I check the eyes, remove any slop with a pair of split ring pliers, and then cure them in my toaster oven at 350 degrees for 30 minutes. I don't sell, so this is just for me and my buddy, who does the lead pouring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Step 1 Hold hook with one plier while heating jig and only heat enough to make paint stick. step 2 Grab eye with second plier that is cool and dip in powder paint. Goal: Keeping temp low and using second pair of pliers acts as a heat sink and prevents paint from sticking on eye. Bake in oven till done. .....Problem Solved.... Edited July 1, 2015 by fshng2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccfish Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Thanks guys, I'll give the two plier thing a shot next time. Never thought about using the split ring pliers to clear the hole out gonna try that out too. Mark, I don't sell either, I just like them to look like or better than the store quality ones I guess that's kinda the fun for me is being able to make something better than I can buy. Thanks again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I use a propane torch to heat and I use a fluid bed to paint and here is what I do. I heat the collar of the jig and I only heat the back side, then I quick dip in the fluid bed and I get a nice even coat that , even after, curing, leave the open but with a light coat of paint on. I heat my jig so it glosses over because when trying the low heat to make it barely stick, I either get bare spots or too much paint on, mostly it is bare spots. The secret is to heat away from the eye, and while the lead will distribute the heat throughout the entire jig, if I heat the collar just right the heat at the eye will be just a little less and a quick dip in the bed gets a super thin coat but the dip has to be quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I heat with a heat gun. I hold the hook in my hand while I heat the head. I only heat enough to get a dull powdery coat. I hold over the eye with needle nosed pliers and swish it through the fluid bed, hang it in the oven rack and bake when I have enough painted. 99% of the time I have no paint on the eye of the hook. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccfish Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Thanks guys. I use a heat gun and a fluid bed also. All my other jigs come out great. That brush jig with the sunken eye has been giving me fits though. Appreciate all the replies. Ill give it another shot tonight. Edited July 1, 2015 by Ccfish 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I use a heat gun and a powder paint air brush. I can control which areas get a little more paint such as the belly and even if I get paint in the eye the coats are so thin it does not make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccfish Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 basseducer whats the waste like with the spray gun, can the excess be recovered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I recover 99% + of the over spray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalljaw Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I invented that thing...LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccfish Posted July 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 So how accurate is the spray gun is it mainly for 1 color applications or is possible to do jig heads with multiple colors with it. I've tried the tapping the brush method a couple of times, didnt come out like i had pictured it in my head. Lol. Anyway just curious what its capabilities are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 I can do a brush jig with a white belly, pink cheeks and a green top. I can also add a red throat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 I can do a brush jig with a white belly, pink cheeks and a green top. I can also add a red throat. Basseducer sounds like you have had alot of practice with multiple colors. Could you post a picture of that one to help me visualize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sorry for the delay, what with all the Forth of Julying, Women's Soccering and the Nascaring and such. Well here we go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Sorry for the delay, what with all the Forth of Julying, Women's Soccering and the Nascaring and such. Well here we go. Wow nice job! Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks, sorry these aren't brush jigs, but I didn't have any made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 NP I was mainly interested in the powder paint job. Oh yea how do you do the eyes and do you epoxy over them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 After I cure the powder in the oven I glue in the eyes and brush on a coat of D2T over the jig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Devcon 2 ton, correct? Where did you buy your powder paint air brush? Did you make your own recovery system and how is that done? So many questions...lol..thanks in advance for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 That's right Devcon, make sure you use the 30 minute. It has a longer pot life and is waterproof. I don't remember where all I got them, I have four. TJ's tackle has a nice kit for a really good price. Here comes the technical part, I hope you can understand scientific talk and stuff. First I made a paint booth out of particle board, It has a screen in the rear and has a bathroom fan behind that. I spray into one corner where most of the over spray collects, the flyaway stuff as I call it gets sucked up by the fan. Now here is where it gets technical. What paint accumulates in the corner gets swept up with a brush and deposited into a funnel then gets dumped back into the air brush jar or back into the storage container. The bathroom fan does a fair job of sucking up the flyaway, but some gets away and lands around the shop and on me. To fix this I just purchased a small dust collector from Harbor Freight and will be setting it up in the next couple days. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yep scientific stuff makes perfect sense to me. I got a good visual of the recovery system. Maybe a modification to your current system is in order. Could you enclose all sides with particle board, except make the front out of plexiglass. Then cut two holes in the plexiglass and attach a glove at each hole (seal around gloves). You may also need a damper in the particle board near the plexiglass to compensate for the air flow created by the fan. A simple damper can be made from a piece of cardboard attached with one screw and allowed to swing over hole to slow or speed up the air flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basseducer Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Fshng2 - the gloves would not be necessary and the hand holes can be cut to generous proportions. The reason being that, the volume of air being drawn by the fan will be concentrated through the hand holes, making the velocity very fast and particle escape impossible. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshng2 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Dave good point, no gloves have an added benefit too as it's easier to transfer gigs. I was originally thinking it could be built to look like a sandblasting enclosure. Do you use a recovery system similar to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
