SlowFISH Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Thanks Bob.... I have servos on my little taig... I can and do run it faster than 6-8 IPM if there isn't much contouring going on.... but I know at this speed I can go to sleep and the next morning the tooling path is complete with no misses. Most of my missed steps are when the machine has to very rapidly change direction back and forth quickly on more than one axis..... I honestly think, as you pointed out - all that weight on the Z- Axis doesn't help the situation... as most of the misses are on the Z axis. Most times I can re-zero the machine and restart the program just before the miss to keep going - but it is annoying. I also agree on the lubrication/adjustments.... when I'm using it alot and have it dialed in nicely - it runs real nice... but if I go a couple weeks without using it - that's when I seem to run into some issues..... I've had it packed up since last May as I've been redoing the basement in my new house... I'm sure I'll have fits for a bit once I fire it back up. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 bob is a servo the same as a encoder.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty's Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I just read this whole thread. I have one question. What's a cnc? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty's Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Chocolate N Cherries Merry Xmas Bob. For any of you thinking of getting into cnc you have a big hill to climb. It's alot of learning. You haven't lived until you've seen a $200 cutter bit go screaming out of control. CNC is a fine line between having fun and SHEER TERROR LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 For the record, I've read most of this thread and I still believe you guys are speaking French. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 dont be scared..lol I would have you programming in a week end...its not rocket science......a scratch pad and a TI - 30 calculator is all that's needed.....you will learn the codes quickly...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 we think differantly bob....thats all.....good intension .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 For the record, I've read most of this thread and I still believe you guys are speaking French. Sounds Greek to me. Ben 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I did a 5 day course on punch card programming, it probably helped. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 first machine i learned on was a punch/tape no grafics....you just hoped it was right....old school gang set 4 tools ...we thought that was the greatest thing...boy the cost of tooling was high.......the computer part was as big as a small car..i think it was a mori.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I didn't get my first calculator until my 2nd year in college. It was log tables for me, as I could not figure the slide rule out. NC was only just starting up, hence the course. Tech moved so fast in those days, now it is moving even faster and no sign of a slow down. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlaery Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 don't do that. it makes me want something i can' have the problem i see is the table is still too small. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think CNC is government speak for cynic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty's Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 You talking to me? Whats a code LOL dont be scared..lol I would have you programming in a week end...its not rocket science......a scratch pad and a TI - 30 calculator is all that's needed.....you will learn the codes quickly...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 how could you make any money with that as slow as it goes..i surly hope thats in slow mo...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Am I the only one wondering why it's called "The 8-Ball Tool Changer" when it only holds 7 tools? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Am I the only one wondering why it's called "The 8-Ball Tool Changer" when it only holds 7 tools? Ben Ben......I'm still looking for the translation button. I know TU has one somewhere. Hmmmmmm........................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 For those who asked. He calls it the 8 Ball because it uses 8 spring loaded balls to lock the tool holder into the spindle. Thanks Bob. I don't have a dog in this hunt since I know next to nothing about machine work, but was curious about the name. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I really appreciate you guys sharing this stuff with the rest of us. It is very interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishon-son Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 thanks mark....machining is a talent for sure. you become better as you get more time on the machines.just like anything else ....the stronger your math skills are the better you will become..top machinist have strong math...so kids,if you want to be a machinist stay in school learn your math dont run with scissors and drink milk.....I think that's how it goes...when your in the shop and are asked questions by your boss/foreman about a print/prints you cant say well lets go to the cad and figure this out...you bust out the calculater and start giving answers ...so in short cad/cam is not needed for you to start cutting molds or parts on this mill or any mill..the tormach mill is a great machine for a start up machinist or shop . (right in your garage)..you really cant beat it.......now I'm not in anyway working for tormach...I just happen to find them on the ole interweb .and just happened to stop by a old friends house and he had one...I think the 1100 has a 10000 rpm spindle and that's more then enough to put a great finish on a hunk of aluminum .....I just wanted to see if there were any members running one.....something to think about if you want to take it to the next level and cut your own molds or parts...20k isn't really a lot of money and could easily be made back and who knows you may become the next bass tackle mold maker....I enjoyed all your thoughts and comments.............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 In your very first post you called it American Made, which is incorrect. They tell you write on the site its made in china. Imo there are a lot better options on the market. For what a blew out tormach will cost you you can easily buy a ualsed haas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Fish-on Son, Ill make you a deal, write the code for any single cavity bait you want that is 3 dimensional by tomorrow night, "as you can have anyone coding in a day" give me a list of tools by number. Ill cut it for you and ship it for free. Hell tell me what it is and ill even draw you a dimension print to go off from. That easy!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 We will have to agree to disagree. Plenty of 3 phase equipment running the entire machine on a coverter. 3 phase draws far less amps as well than any single phase equipment of equal hp. Im just saying. In the end with a tormach you just have a glorified chinese machine. By the time you add all the goodies to even compare to a used haas etc. Your dollars behind by far. Not that you cant go into business with the tormach. Anyone serious about making money. And not building machines. Will kick themselves in the hind end for the purchase. And the tormach used will have no decent resale value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Fish-on Son, Ill make you a deal, write the code for any single cavity bait you want that is 3 dimensional by tomorrow night, "as you can have anyone coding in a day" give me a list of tools by number. Ill cut it for you and ship it for free. Hell tell me what it is and ill even draw you a dimension print to go off from. That easy!! That not fair he could have some one cam it out and post the code. Then just copy it. Unless he is in front of you writing code then you don't know if he wrote it. Edited December 19, 2015 by Frank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majic man Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I could tell. Cam leaves tell tale signs.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
