emptystringer81 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I have a 702 craw 2 cavity mold and im having trouble getting it to fill the bait to the end, i cut up beer cans and sandwiched it between the mold one on each side of the fill spout, I oiled everything good with pam. When I do the first color it does good i have 4 halfs but then when i put 2 of the halfs back into the mold and inject it never goes to the end, seems it is going on both sides of the half. If anyone has a video or pictures of how they do theirs that would help me alot. I messed with it for along time today and cat get it right. Any help would be appreciated. I wish I hat the bass tackle twin injector kit but its pretty darn pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Have you tried a smear of oil or something, to hold the halves in place in the mold. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptystringer81 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 yes i oiled everything good with pam. I found a old topic about this and i may be shooting too fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRammit Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Im sure youve already tried more heat... Just a thought, maybe a little softener? My thinking is, once you place your halves in the mold, you also shrink the cavity by half...... A thinner plastic would flow better.... 2 ways to thin plastic.. Heat or softener Edited December 19, 2015 by JRammit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Make sure you put the first half in the side of the mold without the vents. Also cut the nose back where the new plastic has an unimpeded entry into your mold. I lam this bait but with a twin injector and it laminates well. The two cavity is actually better for laminating with the twin injector because the sprue is much smaller and not as much waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptystringer81 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Apdriver that must have been it, I was putting the halves on the vented side, I tried it and it worked Much better but the plastic didnt reach the claws, and i had it heated to 360 degrees with softner added. Could have been that its so cold out the halves were too cold. Thanks for yalls help, think i can get it now with some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 360 is pretty hot. The claws will dent at 360 but, for me, I really don't care and the fish don't either. The claw is pretty thin before it tapers back out and it could be hardening in the thin part, I guess. I've never had much trouble with this mold but you are shooting it differently with the tin can lam. Thinking about this a little more, that part of the claw is thin enough, you may need to just laminate the body and let the claw fill with the second color. What some folks do also is just do a claw color. You know, shoot the bait with the color you want the claw to be and then cut the claws off, put them back in the mold, then shoot the main color. It makes a nice bait too. Here's a pic of one I've done. Bob makes a claw mold for it too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayburnGuy Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Those look great Apdriver. Should be killer in the spring. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Great looking baits. I'm going to try this for myself. Any problem with the body adhering to the claws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptystringer81 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Good looking baits, I've done diff color claws before, will have to try just laminating body and claws one color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsworms Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ditto.....those look awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptystringer81 Posted December 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 That's a really pretty bait. If you have problems with them adhering cut a scarf when you cut off the claws. It will help. It increase the surface area to transfer heat, and has a thin edge that may even remelt slightly. If a scarf joint isn't enough you can try a V cut, but it takes more time. Sorry for my ignorance but what do you mean by a scarf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Cut it at an angle so there will be more surface area to stick. A straight cut will have less area to stick. If you want to wait you can put bond coat from Spikeit and it will adhere much better but it takes time to dry. Edited December 20, 2015 by Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark poulson Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarf_joint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixon529 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Machining, woodworking, lure making... This forum is a wealth of information! Love it! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptystringer81 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 lol thank yall for the help, im looking at getting a twin injector, do yall know if the twin injector does good laminates with the 702 mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Dead Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 It does just try to keep both colors the same temp or you will get swirls which by itself is not bad. How about a three color? Claws one color or two, hand pour the belly, let cool some and then shoot the top with mold closed. Allot of work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteSS Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) I have four cav 702 and the proper lam plate and it is very hard to do lams. Just too skinny. Lose too many claws to bluegills when I do two color tips Need Bob to make a mold like this. Edited December 24, 2015 by MonteSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynesgto Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 I also have the laminate plate for the 702 mold and I'd say of the 25 or so attempts at making a laminated bait, it's only worked twice, and it was the first two I ever shot. I have yet to have a successful shoot since then. My conclusion is the start of the claw portion is just too thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
