Painter1 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I ordered some Flexicord, and as usual, Barlows had it in my hands in short order. I split it and in a hand pour open mold, put a bit of hot plastic in, then the Mylar and finished the pour. Very pleased with results. The idea came from the Italian gentleman on this forum, and I thank him for it. I have ordered some more Mylar to try different colors and sizes. Will post some pictures ASAP Many thanks and blessings to you fellows that contribute and help the rest of us. If you are a lurker I urge you to jump in and contribute a bit more in the coming year. Regardless of your status; Pro, Hobbiest or Newby, we look forward to your thoughts, ideas and contributions. We wish you all a Merry Christmas, a Healthy and Happy New Year. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodkaman Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 As this thread is instructional, can you please post the pics here - thanks, good job. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apdriver Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Would love to see some of this, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 It works well and is something a little different for sure. I imagine Cami is the guy he is referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robn510 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 pics please? would love to see how yours came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Cami is, indeed, who I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Another pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robn510 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Cool! Have you experienced any splitting of the bait when you insert the hook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cami Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Well done! I am really happy to have inspirated you. Bye. Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Cool! Have you experienced any splitting of the bait when you insert the hook? Good question. I haven't tried that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I had a chance to work the Swimbaits with the Mylar and they worked well on El Salto in Mexico but they were not very durable. Make no sense economically, or for the invested time but were fun. Watermelon fluke with chartreuse tail worked just as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cami Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Dear Painter 1, perhaps I understood the reason why your baits are not enough durable: did you cut the mylar pipe for its length and glued the two mylar parts on each inner cavity of your single pc. mold with paper glue in stick (ex. Pritt), or did you simply encapsulate the round pipe, please? If you left the pipe round, then, when you hook your soft bite, you punch at least the back of bite and when you try to remove the hook then the barb will tear the mylar net. The trick is to leave free the bottom and the back of soft bite. Bye. Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 My goal is to have a weedless bait with the hook point "texposed" I am using open pour aluminum mold with a center insert that creates a hook slot. Much like a Zoom Fluke. I am also using RTV silicone open pour mold with homemade center insert ( razor blade superglued in place) The Mylar tube (Flexicord) is cut in half, lengthwise, leaving two (2) pieces that retain a "memory curve". I had no luck getting the Mylar to stick to either mold type sides using the glue stick method. Perhaps placing something heavy on the Mylar pieces overnight would diminish or eliminate the memory curve and result in success that way. I placed the pieces, freestanding, on either side of the center insert with the outside curved face against the sidewall of the mold before pouring. Plastic that is too hot resulted in distortion of the Mylar and a very poor result. Lowest possible pouring temp while maintaining desired viscosity worked best. I also tried partial filling and then adding the Mylar. Not much difference in final result. The finished bait allows the hook to lie between the suspended-in-plastisol Mylar sheets so the hook only goes through plastic at the top center of the bait. Durability was directly related to tearing of the plastic at hook penetration points just as in a Zoom Fluke. Glueing the tear is, obviously, an option. The fish were just as willing to strike my other soft jerk baits and Swimbaits and while we all thought the Mylar infused baits were the coolest, in the end it is what the big girls want that counts. A bit off topic, but related - we cut some of the paddletail swim baits to create an "old-school" curly tail. Think speed worm. The bass loved it but, again, durability suffered as the tail tended to get ripped off after hook set or bitten off by Tilapia. The vibration these modified baits produced is between a fluke-like tail and a thumping paddle-tail. We started doing this with paddle tail worms but doing it to the Swimbaits allowed us to stop and suspend the bait better at a targeted piece of cover. A stop and twitch brought them out with great success during the very bright mid-day "lull". It is a rare and welcome opportunity to try out baits and ideas when you know the fish are abundant and generally willing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cami Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Thank you for your explication Painter 1. I don't think that you obtained "a very poor result", I think you have correctly intepretated the meaning of this inserted bait, adding a further characteristic as the hook slot created by the center mold insert. Plastic tearing is simply our common trouble during hook setting. Moreover I suppose that my molds are little bit rounder than yours. Finally I think that mylar is simply an added attractive flash for fish, but the right bait movement continue to be the most important thing. Bye. Cami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter1 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Cami, I thank you for bringing this method and material to this forum for sharing. I will be making more of these Marlar infused Swimbaits to use on an upcoming trip in Florida. I'm thinking that the extra flash will enhance these used as a "slash bait" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
