dchance Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Anyone use this in a do it ball head mold? Not sure if it would work or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Do you have a mold model or number? What size hook in what cavity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I have cross referenced it at barlows but it is not listed. The jig is a 1/2 oz ball head finesse jig and the hook is smaller. I would say a 3/0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Derek, I know for a fact that Lure Parts on line has this hook, because that is where I used to buy them, and they also have the #684. LPO has the #674 in 4/0 and the #684 in 6/0. They are exactly the same profile except the #684 is heavier. When I originally looked for these, those were the only sizes that were available. Now Gamakatsu may have other hook sizes, but I don't know where you would get them and never saw a 3/0 hook. Now to answer your question about fit. Both of these hooks will not fit any Do-It mold that I have, and I have about 150 molds. I have done this exercise before and found the same to be true. Reason the hook doesn't work, is because the entire hook shank from the hook eye, all the way through the bend and into the point is curved. There isn't a flat spot anywhere on this hook. To say it is special, well that is for sure. You could possibly modify a mold to accept this hook, but you would have to get some hooks first to see the profile. Now to modify the mold you will have to lay out out a profile of an arc on the mold ( the shape of part of the hook shank) and then you will have to somehow remove this material. Then you will have to do this on the other half of the mold. When I looked into doing this it would be easier to have a machinist cut you a new mold. I am a designer and I use cad, and the layout part is no problem for me, but the question remains as how you are going to cut out the arc on two mold halves and make it work. It's easier said then done. This is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Thanks cadman. I have modded a mold and it is a pain. U are right on size. I was referring to the 4/0. Did u get the link to the pic in my PM? I think that is the hook used anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Derek, Yes I got the pic. Believe it or not I had several people ask me about that hook. They wanted it in a football head and a round head like your pic. Like mentioned above,there is a lot of work to do this by hand. If this hook had a straight shank, I could have done this in my drill press and use it as a mill. However, with a curve throughout the hook, a drill press is not going to work. Although I guess you could lay it out and try to do this with a dremel freehand, but I think with this profile, you would be pretty hard pressed to get everything to line up. Let me know what you end up doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well I won't mod a mold. These jigs are really popular here in the ozarks. Another route I may try is a gami 5941 2/0 for a 7/16 or 1/2 oz finesse jig. Just really liked the other hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well I won't mod a mold. These jigs are really popular here in the ozarks. Another route I may try is a gami 5941 2/0 for a 7/16 or 1/2 oz finesse jig. Just really liked the other hook Just remember that a Gami 594 hook is on the thicker side, and since it is a flat eye, that hook doesn't fit a lot of molds either without some mods. However it is much easier to mod for the Gami hook. Hook eye and the shank diameter might have to be opened up. Do you have the mold you are going to use? If so, give me the number and I could check the fit of the hooks. I have all the #594 hook sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 It is the rwr-3-aym Might also try it in a bsh-3-sa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Is there a similar hook that will work that you like? Looking for shorter more compact finesse jig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 It is the rwr-3-aym Might also try it in a bsh-3-sa Answer to the first mold is it will fit you have to open up the hook eye and also have to open up the part where the hook shank sits. Answer to your second mold is no. This is a brush jig mold and the current hook is recessed in the head. A flat eye will not work here without extensive mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadman Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Is there a similar hook that will work that you like? Looking for shorter more compact finesse jig On the rwr-3-aym, I would either use the hook that is supposed to go in there, or use a 38109 EWG hook. However these are not nowhere near as heavy as the 594 hook On the brush jig I found the Owner #5304 Deep throat hook to be a very good hook in that mold. These are just my opinions. Anything can be modified, or you can have a custom mold made, it all depends on how much time and money you want to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpNoodle Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I've used that hook in one of the Trokar molds. The Trokar football head with screwlok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchance Posted December 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Thanks cadman. You are a great resource here. I took your advice a couple yrs ago and do use the deep throats. On the ball head I was looking for a shorter shank more compact option. Would a 2/0 of recommended hook work fine for the larger sized heads in the ball head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
